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Harry laying a wreath.

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Namsnanny Mon 09-Nov-20 10:57:47

I read he asked for a representative to lay a wreath at the Cenotaph, but courtiers refused, as he is no longer a representative of the RF.
It was said the Queen wasn't informed.

I do feel sorry for him. Even though he must have given the choice he made considerable thought beforehand.

Does anyone know if perhaps he made a symbolic 'wreath laying' on line?

Obviously thats about all he could do given Coronavirus and his new life!

Anniebach Mon 09-Nov-20 12:41:45

He laid Flowers for Australia and Canada, bugger the U.K.

Iam64 Mon 09-Nov-20 12:37:58

He served for ten years and has been heard to say they were the happiest years of his life. In service is when he first began to dream of leaving the RF

His work with Invect games and his commitment to his role with the Royal Marines shouldn't be dismissed as publicity seeking. I wondered yesterday how he would commemorate Remembrance Sunday. I'm pleased he had the opportunity to do so.

Lucca - always good to have someone with similar thoughts on these let's bash Harry threads.

Smileless2012 Mon 09-Nov-20 12:37:08

Yes she is.

Ellianne Mon 09-Nov-20 12:35:10

so much harder when it's in the glare of publicity
Yes, his wife is the one perpetuating that.

Smileless2012 Mon 09-Nov-20 12:30:15

I agree Trisha it is very sad that he's been manipulated for him, and his family. It's bad enough when this causes estrangement in a family and so much harder when it's in the glare of publicity.

Trisha57 Mon 09-Nov-20 12:21:50

He looks like a lost soul to me........I really can't see anything good coming out of all this.........sad. And yes, I know he made his choice, as have all of us when it comes down to it, but that doesn't stop me feeling sad that he seems to have been manipulated. Just my opinion.

Smileless2012 Mon 09-Nov-20 12:17:25

Thanks for the link NotSpaghetti; now I'm even more disgusted.

I hope come the review that regardless of what H&M want, they're not given the opportunity to once again become working royals and represent the RF.

NotSpaghetti Mon 09-Nov-20 12:16:12

I didn't look at his website Ellianne but it's always interesting to see who chooses particular photographers I think.

Ellianne Mon 09-Nov-20 12:13:32

Thanks NotSpaghetti.
Hmmm that guy's CV and website!

Smileless2012 Mon 09-Nov-20 12:13:13

I thought the same as you eazybee.

Anniebach Mon 09-Nov-20 12:10:36

They are not HRH, and disabled servicemen are included in
the ceremony .

merlotgran Mon 09-Nov-20 12:09:39

Just another trashy opportunity to keep themselves in the celebrity limelight.

Harry seems to have lost his sense of dignity.

NotSpaghetti Mon 09-Nov-20 12:06:12

Quite a long article here for anyone interested. Tells you about the photographer Lee Morgan who took the photos.

distincttoday.net/2020/11/09/fashion-and-celebrity-snapper-behind-harry-and-meghans-la-cemetery-photoshoot/

eazybee Mon 09-Nov-20 12:04:36

The presence of H and A would have detracted from the solemnity of the service. The number of representatives of many countries and organisations was drastically reduced; H has no official position, (his choice, ) therefore he could not be represented.

Can you imagine the furore if Andrew had been there?

Calendargirl Mon 09-Nov-20 11:53:55

And as both Andrew and Harry are no longer ‘working royals’, I assume that is why they are no longer involved in wreath laying in any way.
Under the ‘pick and mix’ version H&M expected, he would have been doing stuff like that.

Lexisgranny Mon 09-Nov-20 11:51:43

I think what disappointed me was the fact that UK newspapers on line close to run headlines with the photographs of Megan and Harry in America. Harry is not in the USA in an official capacity, and yet his huge wreath was on a stand at the monument, no other wreaths were in camera shot. Yes it was a nice gesture, but one which should have been done privately, not with their photographers in attendance, particularly when Harry says the click of cameras causes him to become anxious, something he appears to ave overcome in the USA.

Disappointed that the press (at the point when I looked on line) chose to lead with this, rather than the (hopefully) unique ceremony at the Cenotaph, which was immaculately observed under very difficult circumstances. Sadly it regrettably drew the usual comments, such as Blair’s presence, the Duchess of Cambridge’s coat, and the fact that the Prince of Wales’s gloves were somewhat grubby!

Calendargirl Mon 09-Nov-20 11:50:47

SpringyChicken

When does the present arrangement come up for review? It must be soon.

They announced they wanted to leave early January, but think it was end of March when it was officially ‘the end’.
So expect 31st March 2021 is review date.

Ellianne Mon 09-Nov-20 11:45:38

perhaps on behalf of disabled servicemen given his involvement in the Invictus Games
That would have been fitting Maw2B.

SpringyChicken Mon 09-Nov-20 11:43:20

When does the present arrangement come up for review? It must be soon.

merlotgran Mon 09-Nov-20 11:42:49

Do they have remembrance services on the same day as us in America?

MawB2 Mon 09-Nov-20 11:39:55

I am usually cynical, but think this time H and M did the right thing. I am sorry he wasn’t allowed a representative to lay a wreath at the Cenotaph on his behalf, perhaps on behalf of disabled servicemen given his involvement in the Invictus Games.
The RF takes no prisoners does it? Once you’re out, you’re out.

Nadateturbe Mon 09-Nov-20 11:38:27

After so many years and for both of them to have served in action that they were unable to have laid a wreath,must have been hard for them.
They aren't any more important than all the others who served.

I do think the queen did very well, to stand for so long in Westminster Abbey.

Ellianne Mon 09-Nov-20 11:38:16

I agree OceanMama that he should have done something. But in a more discreet manner, without his missus using it as photo opportunity. I'm sure he does care, and it must have been hard for him.

Lucca Mon 09-Nov-20 11:32:13

I rest my case

OceanMama Mon 09-Nov-20 11:31:35

But don't you think that if he was seen to do nothing, everyone would get upset that he did nothing and complain about him not caring? And if he does something, as he did, people will get upset about that and say he quit so it's not his place anymore? I think people would complain whatever he did or didn't do. I think I'd err on the side of showing I care, which I'm sure he does.