Rather pay than give in

Does that change where we are Elegran?

Errr - re Brexit voting and education level. It isn't an old chestnut. If you believed the polls when they provided those statistics for how people of different ages voted, you can hardly disbelieve them on how people of different educational levels did. They are equally likely to be right on that.

"*What are the facts?*

Research carried out by leading polling companies in the wake of the referendum found that educational attainment was strongly linked to whether voters supported EU membership.

According to YouGov, 68% of voters with a university degree wanted to remain in the EU, while 70% of voters with only GCSE qualifications or lower voted to leave. Those with A levels and no degree were evenly split.

These findings largely tally with the results of an Ipsos Mori survey published in September, and with polling conducted by Lord Ashcroft on the day of the referendum.

Of the 30 areas with the fewest graduates in the UK, 28 backed Brexit, according to the BBC. “By contrast, 29 out of the 30 areas with the most graduates voted Remain”, including the City of London, Belfast South, Cambridge, Oxford and Edinburgh, it adds.

*Who is right?*

Polling data suggests that Sheerman is correct; voters with higher qualifications were more likely to vote to remain in the EU
www.theweek.co.uk/89378/fact-check-did-uk-s-better-educated-vote-remain

Why is one side so sure it is right and everyone else is wrong, racist and idiots? It must be great to have such certainty.

Petra ???????

Casdon & Nazumi65
Your both a bit late to the party with the sneering in regards to voters qualifications.
We heard much worse 4 years ago on this site. Water off a ducks back to all of us. You'll both have to come up with something more original than that old chestnut.

Yes Callistemon they will be chuntering on ( from a sedentary position) for years to come.
It was a democratic vote .....whatever anyone thinks of the decision to hold a referendum.
It was four years ago, we have now left and have more to worry us in the form of Covid and the economy because of Covid, as have most other countries.
People do need to move on, or spend the years they have left (!) in bitter arguments.

Maybe not attacked but money is going to be wasted.

No British boat is going to attack a European fishing boat.

I wasn’t allowed to vote.
Certain people voted to leave and then immediately applied for an EU passport. I, finally after so many years, when I never gave it a thought as I was a European and comfortable with that, had to apply for one. I felt like a traitor.
Now, I could be paying my taxes to attack EU boats on the one hand and on the other paying my taxes to protect them

They'll still be chuntering on and on for years Jane10.

Shit happens, Alegrias.
We have to turn it into manure.

Alegrias2- I know!!! It's just that it's done. It's a matter of making the best of it rather than going on and on about what's wrong with Brexit!

(American)

We can disregard what he thinks then

Oh lol Casdon

Referendum stats: 70% of people who are not educated beyond GCSE (or equivalent) level voted leave with 68% of those with degrees voting remain.

Hence the ease with which this has been linked to populism and class war.

My husband's best man is a highly educated leave voter, but he's always been a right wing Thatcherite headbanging anti Europe type. He's Libertarian really so maybe not a surprise.

Having said that the one Libertarian voter (American) I know thinks that Brexit is hilariously insane.

I’m sure you all know that one of the most telling statistical breakdowns, apart from age, is the educational qualifications of those who voted remain and leave - 68% of people with degree level qualification voted remain, 70% with GSCE only or lower qualifications voted leave. I don’t think that’s something that this country should be proud of.

Yes, anecdotal.

The people I know are people with degrees (some PhDs) who have a lot of experience of industry and the world outside the EU. Not racist in the slightest.

I listened but made up my own mind to vote remain.

The only person I know who voted leave was a dim racist who is now dead. Anecdotal evidence.

merlotgran

^Sometimes things are just right or wrong and opinions don't come into it, and this is one of those things.^

In your opinion.

Yes.

Sometimes things are just right or wrong and opinions don't come into it, and this is one of those things.

In your opinion.

Educated, experienced or not, they made the wrong decision for the UK Callistemon . No question about it, and history will judge them and other Leave voters badly.

Sometimes things are just right or wrong and opinions don't come into it, and this is one of those things.

We are walking out on the most successful political partnership there has ever been in Europe

I think that that is the problem in a nutshell Algerias

Most people I know who did vote leave (and they are well-educated, thoughtful people who have a wealth of experience) wanted a close alliance with Europe for trade, exchange of ideas, collaboration and exchange of information but not a political union.

Nezumi65

I hope you are equally cross with the 50 year olds Callistemon who turned out in about the same proportion as 18-24 year olds.

They are the young

You are an intelligent woman lemon and your last post does you no credit. Labour and conservative voters have always had to get over it when their party fails to win an election, but this disaster will have a long term impact on our economy and our standing in the world as everyone sees us being led by an incompetent liar. This is not a right wing/left wing issue as you well know. As for accepting it and getting on with my life, that is not only unlikely, it will be very difficult as the impact of what Brexiteers have brought upon us becomes apparent. Any news yet on the red bus with the £350m a week for the NHS or are we meant to just forget that and get on with our lives?

The older people who voted Leave ( and the younger ones who voted Leave too!) did not ‘shaft’ anybody, what ridiculous language!
They took part in a referendum.
Do all Labour voters think that those who voted Conservative
‘Shafted’ them in the last GE?
Both were democratic votes. Accept it and move on.

Here here Alegrias. So many of us realise how much damage has resulted from the fraudulent referendum. The crooks and liars who inflicted this damage on our country. must be brought to account. They cannot run away from their responsibilities forever.