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Parky Wed 09-Dec-20 08:12:14

Personally I would rather UK left EU without a deal than give up our freedom. We can avoid buying French food and wine, on the wholecwe drink new world wines anyway.
British cheeses are just as good.

As for travel, we all managed before freedom of movement and can easily go back.

The thought of caving into europe and their desire to annexe uk fills me with horror

lemongrove Sun 13-Dec-20 20:25:43

I think the hysteria is spreading, all this nonsense about travel insurance....we have always had to get detailed travel insurance, especially getting older, with ongoing medical problems.Not that many of us will be doing much globe trotting until Covid is under control.
I do wish posters would stop making up problems and lashing out because they are so angry about leaving the EU.
Things won’t be the same, deal or no deal but to spread nonsense about travel ( never go anywhere again! Aged parents never seeing family! Travel insurance too expensive! Etc etc) is simply ridiculous.

Callistemon Sun 13-Dec-20 20:26:16

Thanks Elegran

I've heard the term used on GN but never been interested enough to find out until now.

Marydoll Sun 13-Dec-20 20:28:02

Trying to contribute, is just a waste of time. I too thought it is all becoming a bit hysterical.
Even if you post something which you think makes sense and is accurate, it's disregarded! sad

Callistemon Sun 13-Dec-20 20:30:10

In mitigation, it was not me who mentioned hysteria in the first instance.

It is a discriminatory description.

Marydoll Sun 13-Dec-20 20:30:54

What is Gaslighting?
Gaslighting is psychological manipulation that makes the recipient question their feelings, instincts, and even their sanity. It is one of the worst forms of dirty fighting, and it is used by both men and women. Gaslighting includes a variety of techniques, such as:

Pretending not to understand when you do.
Labeling your partner’s thoughts as crazy or imagined.
Questioning the other person’s memory of events when they remember correctly.
Pretending to forget what actually occurred when you actually remember.
Denying promises that you know you made.
Trivializing the other person’s feelings as being too sensitive when their reaction is somewhat normal.

On this thread? ? Never!!

Elegran Sun 13-Dec-20 20:34:00

Fanny by Gaslight was a completely different film, with James Mason, Phyllis Calvert. Stewart Granger, Jean Kent, (and John Lauriefrom Dad's Army as a brothel proprietor) - but same year 1944. www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPOaSfH2TwY

GrannyGravy13 Sun 13-Dec-20 20:34:22

lemongrove & Marydoll unfortunately reasonable posts do not get answered.
If you have something positive to contribute it doesn’t get acknowledged.

I live in hope that we can move on post Covid and Brexit, to continue in this way will not be productive or healthy.

Callistemon Sun 13-Dec-20 20:34:44

That may be why I was confused.

Marydoll Sun 13-Dec-20 20:36:44

GrannyGravy, also if you contradict some of the inaccurate posts.......

GrannyGravy13 Sun 13-Dec-20 20:39:20

Marydoll

*GrannyGravy*, also if you contradict some of the inaccurate posts.......

Agreed ??

Bodach Sun 13-Dec-20 20:49:19

I'm somewhat bemused by all the hysteria about "British Warships being sent to sink EU Trawlers!";"Gunboat Diplomacy! "Not in my name!" etc etc. The RN's Portsmouth-based Fishery Protection Squadron is actually one of the most long-standing units in the Navy. Even Nelson served in it, for pity's sake! These Patrol vessels will be deployed to do no more nor less than they have been doing this year, last year, the year before and so on - ensuring that fishing is carried out safely and legally in UK (other than Scottish) waters by British and foreign fishing boats with the appropriate licences. Calm down everyone...

MawBe Sun 13-Dec-20 20:53:04

Thank you Bodach - calm and reasoned and informative.

Callistemon Sun 13-Dec-20 20:54:27

Bodach ?

GrannyGravy13 Sun 13-Dec-20 20:55:53

Exactly Bodach calling these vessels gun ships is borderline mass hysteria.

lemongrove Sun 13-Dec-20 20:56:19

Fish finger sarnie anyone? With a glass of wine
True enough Daddima ( about Naval fisheries protection)
But the truth isn’t always wanted by excitable people.

Callistemon Sun 13-Dec-20 20:59:18

I remember the "Cod Wars" when Iceland again expanded her maritime exclusive economic zone, this time to 50 miles

GrannyGravy13 Sun 13-Dec-20 21:03:18

lemongrove I do like a fish finger sandwich, granary bread and homemade tartare sauce, hits the spot every time!

lemongrove Sun 13-Dec-20 21:06:46

What a posho you are GG13.... I douse mine with tomato K.
?
Although I do like granary bread.

Callistemon Sun 13-Dec-20 21:08:55

It's just not the same with gluten-free

Nezumi65 Sun 13-Dec-20 21:10:09

Completely agree about the hysteria

Chewbacca Sun 13-Dec-20 21:11:42

Granary bread you say Lemon? Don't know if that will be available post Brexit........? runs and hides......

lemongrove Sun 13-Dec-20 21:12:48

Haha, then let them eat cake!

GrannyGravy13 Sun 13-Dec-20 21:15:48

lemongrove

Haha, then let them eat cake!

Yeh!!!

MawBe Sun 13-Dec-20 23:36:58

And as it can’t be brioche what would you suggest?
Eccles cake?

GagaJo Mon 14-Dec-20 07:10:54

Supermarkets already showing shortages despite trying to stockpile upon the advice of BJ. But don't let that get in the way of project fear gaslighting.

As long as the usual ostrich subjects don't start bleating about hardships later.