Rather pay than give in

Previously I’ve had Annual Travel insurance tacked on to my house insurance, cost £120 for Worldwide including US.
Now of course Covid related claims have been excluded, so it will be a search when traveling becomes possible again.

Madness to go anywhere without insurance at that cost

Yes, but we are here talking about EU days, when medical insurance for people with
pre-existing condition/s was very expensive, but accessible, available even- because EHIC covered the emergency part - private insurance covered the interim and the earliest possible safe repatriation to NHS care. Travel Insurance recovered the emergency part of cost- and this made it as cheap as possible.

Yes but, yes but, yes but..... biba every holiday you book clearly tells you to make sure that you should arrange for full travel insurance and not to solely rely on EHIC; you know this so what is the point of labouring the point? Very few countries have a free at the point of access healthcare system like the NHS, so you'd have to be completely irresponsible, or stupid, to rely on EHIC alone.

MawBe

biba70

Been thinking about it, and I know so many friends and family in the UK who will find it very difficult now to either go on holiday (ah well, never mind)- or to go and stay in the second home (some very modest) they bought in good faith in nearby France or other EU, but mainly those whose adult children and grand-children are currently living in the EU or Switzerland- and who, for medical reasons, will not be able to get insurance cover. So sad.

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My personal experience only, but after DH’s transplant we had to shop around various travel insurance companies recommended by the HeptoRenal people . And yes it cost more, as in all the future years once he had listed all his admissions to hospital, operations etc And yes, we were in the EU at the time.
But so what?

So glad for the assurance that these second homes are a) modest and b) bought in good faith. Wouldn’t want to waste sympathy on owners of villas in tax havens would we?
As Donald Trump would say “So sad ”

To add type [ grin]

Sorry I meant to explain, but the list of emojis shoukd be familiar to anyone. I don’t think we have one for [nasty face]
That was grin to indicate a degree of levity .
But you can’t deny it is one of the Donald’s favourite phrases!
Dare I risk it again -

Even if you got expensive treatment with the EHIC, it doesn't cover thins like repatriation, accommodation for extended stays if you can't travel home, accommodation for any family members staying with you, costs for rescheduling flights, etc, etc. Travelling without adequate insurance is definitely foolhardy.
I have diabetes, high blood pressure if not controlled with medication, extensive nerve and joint problems, etc, etc. My bank will cover any of that as long as I haven't had to have emergency treatment in the past 12 months. My Mum has similar problems and she always used the Post Office for insurance as they would cover everything but if you had a claim, you would have to pay a much larger excess. That seemed a very reasonable way of doing things.
On Brexit, it seems that without a deal, the French will lose out on the fishing so it is in their interests to compromise. With the level playing field, I don't understand how anyone would want to sign up to something which one side could change without a buy your leave. Even when you buy a house, car, etc, you wouldn't do this. However, I should have thought it would be fairly simple to come up with an agreement where we keep the terms we have but any new ones that we don't wish to adhere to would just mean we weren't able to export the goods which it affected. As we usually state subsidise less, normally have better conditions than other countries, it is unlikely to be a huge problem but will protect both sides from imbalancing the level playing field. Historically, we did have the power of veto in certain areas, this would be similar. As a leaver, I feel that would give this country a choice but we wouldn't expect the EU to compromise future trade on their terms.
Regulation is a little bit more difficult but I am sure there must be somebody a little more creative in thought than I to find a solution.
We are all pretty much graduates or post graduates in our family where we voted to leave. The main ones who voted Remain couldn't have debated the Pros or Cons out of a paper bag. That said, I also have members of my family who haven't a qualification because as youngsters they weren't interested in academia but are far more knowledgeable about the ins and outs of economics, the EU, etc. Qualifications are achievable for those who can perform on the day but the statistics don't take into account those are intelligent and informed but suffer from exam anxiety or brain fog when stressed.

How truly nasty and totally insensitive. So if someone suffered any heart or kidney condition in the past, any form of cancer, etc- should be condemened to never visit their family who have moved to EU- even a short flight or drive away- through no fault of their own.

Trump ? Maw and a nasty face - thought better of you really.

Oh dear - that was what I meant to quote - so my previous comments apply to that.
As for being “condemned” to not visiting family because of health issues - well, shit happens.
Tell me about it! If one can’t go to the family, the family have to come to one as it were.

MawBe

Sorry I meant to explain, but the list of emojis shoukd be familiar to anyone. I don’t think we have one for [nasty face]
That was grin to indicate a degree of levity .
But you can’t deny it is one of the Donald’s favourite phrases!
Dare I risk it again -

You can risk it all you want- but you clearly don't read people's posts. And you can be familiar with something, and yet unable to reproduce, as explained.

Sarcasm and indeed be very nasty.

So is total lack of empathy.

You can risk it all you want- but you clearly don't read people's posts. And you can be familiar with something, and yet unable to reproduce, as explained

I have not the faintest idea what you are talking about.
But to recap = “grin” not “nasty face”
I also fail to see what I am familiar with, yet unable to reproduce
(= “confused”, not another “nasty face”)
I am more than familiar with the exigencies of travel insurance for those with a medical “history” and maintain that if older parents are unable to travel to their AC because of health issues, it would not be unreasonable to hope that the AC woukd see that and do the travelling instead.
Molehill, mountain.

Having lived with the health/travel insurance issue more than most for 20+ years, empathy might just feature on my list .

I am fully aware of this- that you know how difficult it was.

The point is, that in future, with No Deal and loss of EHIC, it is going to be much much more difficult- and often, impossible. Hence the comment about lack of empathy- for those who, in future, will be 'locked in away from families' in the future.

You sarcasstically said everyone should be fully aware of emoticons here- and I replied that I am, but can't reproduce- as I have a foreing keyboard (oh dear...) and no square brackets. And my interpretation that a sarcastic face, after a sarcastic comment, even with a grin and Xmas hat - is - not nice, and not meant to be.

Your constant personal attacks, back by your your fan club and your clap clap clap- are not nice either.

But this is not about me, or you, for that matter. So logging off for tonight.

That went well, didn't it ?

Well, I'm

I am not MawBe and she is not me.
I didn't think that MawBe was involved in the conservation re travel insurance (vital imo), biba, but I may be wrong.

But I am becoming rather lost too

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Autocorrect again

petra

That went well, didn't it ?

petra
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Callistemon

Well, I'm

I am not MawBe and she is not me.
I didn't think that MawBe was involved in the conservation re travel insurance (vital imo), biba, but I may be wrong.

But I am becoming rather lost too

why did you 'think' instead of reading posts- that would help, perhaps, no?

He jokes about being frivolous with our inheritance

Pantglas I do that too but the DC say - we'd rather see you than have an inheritance!

We call it SKIING.

why did you 'think' instead of reading posts- that would help, perhaps, no?
I did say I may be wrong

Déjà vu and it's getting tedious.
However, I am more resilient now.

Pot, kettle, black, biba

I didn't think that MawBe was involved

Semantics

I’’m lost too

How was my comment “sarcastic” - “grin” is what it says not “sarcastic leer”

Because I spoke of my experience in the past doesn’t indicate a “lack of empathy” with anybody now or in the future. Surely I can have an opinion.
Somebody is presuming too much .
As I said, mountains, molehills, whipped up hysteria, not to mention a good bit of pearl -clutching.
I don’t have a “gang” and if I endorse a post by ?? ??, so what?
And in my defence, what is the accusation of not reading posts all about?
Sigh, giving up now.

petra

That went well, didn't it ?

Indeed it did!

???
When I mentioned hysteria on another thread I was told it's gas lighting.
I have no idea what that is?

Fanny by Gaslight?


I think we have an infiltration from MN who speak a different language.

I prided myself on keeping up with my DC but I' m getting lost with the terminology on GN nowadays

And in my defence, what is the accusation of not reading posts all about?

That was aimed at me, I should rtft.

I missed your post MawBe, apologies.

Gaslighting = Telling people they are nuts so as to make them really go round the bend. In a film "Gaslight" 1944. Charles Boyer is plotting to make Ingrid Bergman seem mad by tricking her - footsteps in a sealed-off attic and so on, to conceal a past crime of his which she is starting to suspect. Trailer at www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyEtKpplmjQ

All together now ^D'ya wannabe in my gang my gang my gang' ??????