Rather pay than give in

There are delays in Calais as well www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/dec/12/brexit-stockpiling-causing-10-mile-tailbacks-calais

Agree with you Amberspyglass. I’m a bit shocked that I can no longer take my dog to Northern Ireland without the same checks as if we were going to France. I can’t see the U.K. staying intact now.

One thing that hasn’t been reported widely - the chemicals we use to purify our tap water here aren’t stable enough to keep for more than three days so there’s a slim chance water supplies might be affected. I’m getting purifying tablets just in case, and a couple of rain butts for the garden.

Will add some bottled water to the shopping list.

A filter jug might be better than bottles (more plastic to be recycled).

Having lived off mains, a good system for filtering drinking water, from a rainwater tank, was essential.

MawBe

And breathe!
The thread seems to have cooled down, thank you for sensible posts.

Just because you don’t happen to agree with certain posts, doesn’t make them not sensible.

I’m so tired of this little jab.

Summerlove

I can’t find it now, of course. But it was often recommended to have enough for two weeks in case you had to quarantine.

And you could’ve gone further but of course of not bothered....

People who stock pile do it slowly over many month.
Will add some bottled water to the shopping list.
But not too much, that would be panic buying, as you said earlier.

I would still recommend a filter jug. Sometimes our tap water smells like a swimming pool, so I get the filter jug out.
I know you can have proper systems installed but that is not so simple.

I haven’t mentioned panic buying. That was someone else.

Summerlove

GrannyGravy13

It was stockpiling at the beginning of the pandemic which caused a multitude of problems. In my opinion it is utterly selfish.

I can still see the image of the elderly lady distraught because the supermarket shelves were empty.

That was panic buying.

People who stock pile do it slowly over many month.

Regardless, advice at the beginning of the pandemic was to have two weeks worth of food in your house at all times. Not everybody has that because of the ease of buying daily. So of course people listen to the government and went out and bought what they needed for two weeks.

But it’s certainly much easier to blame it on individual people being stupid and selfish versus the government advice, isn’t it?

Oh, Summerlove, I thought it was you:
That was panic buying.

Summerlove isn’t stockpiling water. I am.

Actually I added a 6 pack of still water & 4l of sparking to the order. So not exactly stockpiling. Just adding some from none.

I think there's a bit of confusion here (me)
Apologies.

Summerlove

MawBe

And breathe!
The thread seems to have cooled down, thank you for sensible posts.

Just because you don’t happen to agree with certain posts, doesn’t make them not sensible.

I’m so tired of this little jab.

hear, hear- getting quite unpleasant. (how do you spell 'possy' ?)

Ah...the Season of goodwill! ??

I expect MawBe simply meant it was good that posters had calmed down their responses.I’ll drink to that.

A filter jug is the best bet, but in extremis ?
the water that comes out of the tap is perfectly drinkable in the UK.

Summerlove

MawBe

And breathe!
The thread seems to have cooled down, thank you for sensible posts.

Just because you don’t happen to agree with certain posts, doesn’t make them not sensible.

I’m so tired of this little jab.

Yawn - fight in an empty room?

What is the problem with expressing appreciation of sensible or rational posts?

(Which little jab was that? )

icanhandthemback
With the level playing field, I don't understand how anyone would want to sign up to something which one side could change without a buy your leave
But people do when they sign an agreement for a house mortgage with the bank, the rates go up and down.
In sport eg Olympiques or UK football clubs obey FIFA, which enable them to play in international games.
Country’s laws change from time to time, which everyone has to obey.

mokryna, yes they do but do have the option of changing providers and, these days, more often than not have a fixed rate for a number of years. We could not just up and leave from an agreement negotiated with the EU and we can't have short enough agreements to make it worthwhile.
Trying to negotiate with 27 other countries who all have their own country's interests at the forefront of their agenda, is what made me vote leave. I think the last 4 years have just highlighted the problems with the a very cumbersome system.

lemongrove

Ah...the Season of goodwill! ??

I expect MawBe simply meant it was good that posters had calmed down their responses.I’ll drink to that.

Hear hear!

I think someone at our local pumping station has a heavy hand with the chlorine sometimes. It fair knocks you back when you turn on the tap.
Btw anyone seen Trump lately? He's keen on bleach.

icanhandthemback
^ often than not have a fixed rate for a number of years^
You didn’t live through the years when I first bought a house
‘69 = 7% / ‘79 = 17% .

The problem is that, although it wasn’t carried through this time, it was said international agreements could be disregarded or torn up, where is the trust now? It’s a very sad situation which is not made better with statements such as, we will have fish for breakfast, lunch and dinner, meaning no agreement can be made, whereas earlier, the EU was saying agreements are on the way to being made. I do agree that the EU has more then its fair share of the fish market but I am sure if the will is there an agreement can be made, otherwise what will happen to the UK farmers when the cheap meat gets dumped in the UK and they cannot export easily to the EU.

MawBe
(Which little jab was that? )

That only only the posts you agree with are sensible.
The rest of us are apparently looking for a fight.

Maybe my post was not sensible enough to be understood

Callistemon

I think there's a bit of confusion here (me)
Apologies.

Thank you

For the record, I’m not stock piling water.

pantglas I’m sorry I couldn’t find an article from 9 months ago.

Apparently lemongrove the season of goodwill only goes in one direction

Mokryna

There are several good examples of rules that may change here are a couple
GM foods, at present we cannot grow them because of EU rules, if we did the EU would ban much of our produce
Hormone treated meat, if we imported US beef they would not want it sent to them
Safety at present the”CE” label is an EU standard if we decided to change, again that would be a problem

There are many many more ways we might change, that why they want the right to say no thanks.

Summerlove

MawBe
(Which little jab was that? )

That only only the posts you agree with are sensible.
The rest of us are apparently looking for a fight.

Maybe my post was not sensible enough to be understood

I don’t know where you get that idea.
How do you assess which posts I have adjudged sensible or not?
I commented that tempers seemed to have eased, posts were more rational, less hysterical and yes, IMO I stand by the word sensible
I understood your post well enough but wonder why you find it necessary to try to fan any flames again. ??
As I said, fight in an empty room.

mokryna, I did live through those times with a mortgage but it is because of those times, a lot of people lived and learned which is why fixed rates became more of a thing.
The problem is that, although it wasn’t carried through this time, it was said international agreements could be disregarded or torn up, where is the trust now?
I agree totally, I was horrified at that. Wanting Brexit didn't mean that I lost my morals even if others did!
As for the fishing rights, I think what the French want is unreasonable but do think there can be some reasonable movement on the British side. I get fish straight from the boat and there have been many times when the boats have been unable to fish because the quotas are so tight. However, other nations have still been out trawling. How can that be right? A bigger percentage would certainly help our fishermen and, in a time when meat eating is being decried, we should be encouraging more consumption of fish.

I know there are gullible Grans, but Parky must be joking!