No one obeyed the rules!

I think that the comments about people snooping are less about them looking out of their windows than about the fact that they are making a note of what the neighbours are doing, who they are doing it with and when they are doing it.

I echo those who say that you can only control your own life, and that getting upset about the behaviour of others is pointless, and I say this as someone who has not even been in a shop since March.

No worries, nadateturbe, I can see now where the misunderstanding came from. Great minds think alike, eh?

A few days before Christmas my next door neighbour had 5 different cars with different relatives on one day. I'm not snooping but they park in front of my house and slam doors and shout hello and goodbye loudly, since then there has been a different car each day. He is very vulnerable and lives with an 80 year old mother.

Sorry Maggiemaybe misunderstanding.?

nadateturbe

Nothing wrong with looking out of the window and knowing what’s going on, but the title of the thread is No one obeyed the rules!.

Yes I know. I answered the OP in my first comment.

I don’t know why you’re quoting me, nadateturne. I’m merely giving my own opinion, not commenting on yours.

Correct, indoors but I think you can stay longer if you are 1 person, with 1 household who are bubbled together and not bubbled with anyone else.
If shielding through vulnerability or self isolating if you have come into contact with someone with the virus, you should really stay in your own home.
Someone will correct if I’ve misinformed you JuneRose.

I thought a gathering of three households on Christmas day only was allowed - in tier 2 anyway... ?

Nothing wrong with looking out of the window and knowing what’s going on, but the title of the thread is No one obeyed the rules!.

Yes I know. I answered the OP in my first comment.

During the first lockdown I was doing my elderly neighbour’s shopping with mine but when I returned he would sometimes tell me he had forgotten one or two things from his list.
Feeling sorry for him I popped out again to a local shop rather than back to the supermarket a few miles away.

This was when we were only supposed to go out once a day and after reading all the threads like this one I wonder if my comings and goings had been noted by any of my neighbours.

This was back in the days when the police used drones to spy on hapless folk walking their dogs on deserted moors.
Thank goodness that was nipped in the bud.

What we need now is total lockdown as the virus is out of control. 4xGranny has every right to be worried.

It's quite clear that we just can't rely on others to be sensible. They are playing Russian Roulette with the lives of our loved ones!

cornishpatsy

You cannot change other peoples behaviour, getting angry about it is only going to affect you.

Well said cornishpasty. All this jumping up and down, holding heads in despair, sighing, bleating etc wont make the slightest difference to others. People will not be driven.

You cannot change other peoples behaviour, getting angry about it is only going to affect you.

My street seem to have observed the tier 3 advice. We live near the beach and there have been family socially distanced picnics going on and distanced walks. Weve definitely kept to the rules.

4xGranny

Maggiemaybe
I don’t know where you read that but Boris definitely said no overnight stays when he retracted the 5 day Christmas bubble.

My quote is directly from the gov.uk website, 4xGranny, the only source I’d trust. What’s yours?

www.gov.uk/government/publications/rules-on-travel-over-the-christmas-period/rules-on-travel-over-the-christmas-period

I think it's pretty evident by the number of deaths in 24hrs that nobody obeyed the rules. Is it worth it ?

The original poster mentioned the 'old lady next door' who went to her daughters. Probably that is her bubble family and she is definitely permitted to visit them and they her.

Mental health is as important as physical health.

I went to my bubble family on Christmas Eve and Christmas day, They are just about five or so minutes away from me and also include three teenage children (one a uni student) and a 10-year old. My daughter teaches at a local secondary school. They were all supposed to come to me for Boxing Day (as usual), but we felt that, although within the rules, it would not be fair on other people in my block of flats, so I went to them again
My student g.son had been tested before leaving his Uni halls, The other children and my daughter had been out of their schools for nearly ten days by christmas. My son in law is extremely vulnerable.

So, if the poster lived in my block of flats they would have seen me going out each morning and returning each evening for those three days .

I had a visit from the police a few weeks ago to ask me about one of my neighbours. They wanted to check if the information they had been given anonymously was true. It had been claimed that the couple living opposite me had been having numerous visits several times a day despite us being in tier three.

Yes indeed they have, the lady is disabled following a car crash and needs two carers going in four times a day to hoist her out of and into bed, bathe her, change her incontinence pads, get her dressed etc etc. I’m sure she would prefer her active life back rather than rely on carers to meet her needs.

I was very cross at the thought of someone reporting my neighbours, it would not have been anyone living in our road as we are all aware of what has happened. Luckily I was able to convince the police not to call at the house, the elderly couple would have been so upset.

They have always existed. Years ago a friend had a builder in to repair a chimney. The next thing she knoew she had the Plaiing Authority round, her neighbour had told them she was building an extension without planning or building reg approval. She knew precisely who had reported her.

There are some malicious snoopers about. A 75 year old neighbour who has 4 cars in her drive had a visit from the police last night.
She lives with her daughter and gc s who have not even been to school as she is vulnerable. They get groceries delivered and husband works from home. She was very upset but has an idea who it might have been .

FannyCornforth

Sparklefizz I really feel for your daughter. Teachers are in a terrible situation.

Can someone please explain the Dr Seuss reference? Thank you.

Not Freud or Jung??
Unless Bluebelle really did mean Dr Suess.....

Everyone on our road stayed home, there was no traffic, no cars moving at all and very few out walking, it seemed quite eerie when you looked out, we were all in our own homes.

This is what I see when sitting on the sofa. No houses in front of me just the entrance to a cul-de-sac but I, like the OP and others, do see what is going on depending what I am doing. Not particulary interested in what anyone else is doing but it is a friendly neighbourhood and I think we are all aware of each other. My late DH's chair was facing the window directly and he certainly could see what was going on and it helped pass his day when he was poorly and he was very happy to get a wave from passer-bys!!

No many people did it to be sure as they could be that they were Covid free before visiting any relatives for Christmas Ellianne .
It wasn’t in the plans for her Christmas to be that way, but when it happened “Plan B” had to become “Plan A” .

That's right Puzzler.
The folks I was speaking about were self isolating even though they had had no alerts at all.

My DD, in her thirties, is self isolating after an alert on the NHS app - from the 20 Dec. until the 30 Dec.
No discussion by her or us, she stayed /will stay with her housemates for the whole 10 days.
Despite it being Christmas we all felt it was unequivocally the right thing.