Is this allowable do you think ?

UPDATE

DH who is law abiding, emailed our local police to ask whether we could visit our local NT grounds. They came back saying they couldn’t give an opinion and to look on the Government website. Back to square 1 ?

Ah thanks PEC for clarifying that about NT properties. I was in Spain during the lockdown here so I wasn’t aware.
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because your walk / exercise is supposed to be short so there is no need to sit!!!
Stay at home is the law, except for essential shopping.

Why are you repeating this nonsense? The law does not state that at all. It states:
Shop for basic necessities, for you or a vulnerable person
Go to work, or provide voluntary or charitable services
Exercise with your household (or support bubble) or one other person, this should be limited to once per day, and you should not travel outside your local area.
Seek medical assistance or avoid injury
Attend education or childcare

lemsip

you can also exercise and walk at home if not fit enough to go for a walk! lots on you tube. gentle exercise!

How thoughtful.

So people who are fit and well can continue to go out and see others, feel part of the human race, and do what they see as 'necessary for their physical and mental health' (how that phrase grates), but those who are not are doomed to remain prisoners in their homes, unable to go to hospital appointments because they are cancelled, and not allowed to see others, even as they jog past, shop, or go for their 'essential exercise'?

We get it. No need for the exclamation marks to ram the message home.

The reason 'local' is vague is because places to walk vary depending on whether you live in an urban or rural environment.

I'm really surprised that having a safe place to walk isn't higher on people's agenda. If everyone was just walking round the block, how wide are your pavements? Round here about 1m. Social distancing could be awkward. And there are plenty of places women don't feel safe walking, even in 2s.

I'm in the same position Lucca. Far too much overthinking going on, I agree with JE and Lemon.

I'm going to have to go for a sit down. Not on a bench, obviously.

you can also exercise and walk at home if not fit enough to go for a walk! lots on you tube. gentle exercise!

why can't people walk a few times around the block if once is not enough.

BlueSky Sat 09-Jan-21 17:30:02
Why aren’t we allowed to sit on a bench? .......

because your walk / exercise is supposed to be short so there is no need to sit!!!
Stay at home is the law, except for essential shopping.

You are looking for a 'trip' out to walk in a lovely park - just at the moment we are being asked NOT to make unnecessary journeys, but we are encouraged to take exercise locally.

Ask yourself the famous question "is my journey really necessary?" - answer ............

janeainsworth

Bluesky Why aren’t we allowed to sit on a bench?

Because the virus can stay on surfaces & be transmitted.
One of the very early super-spreading events was in a church in Singapore.

A couple who were incubating the virus but had no symptoms had flown in from China & attended the church.
Another couple who attended a later service sat on the same pew & became infected themselves.

and that's why children's play grounds should be closed too, and outdoor adult gym equipment.

I cannot walk far at all without having to stop for a rest. So I am not going out which is making me worse mentally and physically. I try and do some exercise indoors. Everyone I know is unsure as to the exact rules.

I cannot understand why garden centres are allowed to be open. Surely it is not good to encourage people to go to these places, it is not really necessary essential shopping in my view.

It's interesting that anglers can now continue to fish because the Canal and River Trust has issued guidelines for people who want to walk along the Canal as a part of their daily excercise. They recommend keeping the statutory 2 metres apart. Well, I don't know about the width of the Canal towards near you but if I was to walk 2 metres away from other walkers on our local canal, one of us would be in the water. It's like the dodgems on there.

lemongrove

JenniferEccles

Lots of people on here believe it’s not permissible to drive short distances to exercise, but if that’s true, wouldn’t the government have ordered National Trust properties to close, or wouldn’t they have decided themselves not to keep their grounds open?

As I said earlier the vast majority of them can only be reached by car.

I feel people are overthinking all this exercise issue.

??Yes.

Seriously discombobulated to find myself agreeing with Lemongrove and Jennifer Eccles.?

Isn’t this thread very similar to two others in the last few days ?

And yet angling is now permitted. How many people have a lake or river within walking distance of their home? I bet most anglers need to drive to their venue.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-55587460

I have breathing issues, and should be gently exercising for the good of my health, but I need to stop and rest every so often (sometimes every couple of minutes).

If I can't sit on a bench, I may as well stay indoors, which is what I have done since March. The lack of exercise has made my breathing worse.

Nevermind joggers round the village, our police force tweeted today:
Just over an hour gone into our shift and 41 Covid breaches we need to attend already. Pretty much all people at holiday homes. Frustrating."
He later added to say that the number had reached a staggering 50.
So how are they supposed to find the time to stop locals driving around the neighbourhood?

The government should be a bit more specific and give a maximum distance from the home address for the daily exercise. Then if it is arrived at on foot or in a car is irrelevant.

Sorry, a short stroll round the block is not enough for me, I'm trying to walk at least a mile a day. If we all stay at home without exercise we will be less healthy. I'm lucky as I live near a royal park so I can go there, but it does get quite busy and people do drive there. If you live in a small flat without a garden and children and toddlers, you have to get out and possibly drive to some green space which I think is acceptable.

In the first lockdown you could drive a short way to walk. The drive had to be less time than the walk. 4 miles is a relatively short drive (15 mins?) to walk around a NT property - probably 1.5 hrs walk?
It is confusing - as they are saying don’t drive to “beauty spots” but N/T open?
We’re still dog walking from our door - we can we're in the country - but also doing 5-10 min drives to walks. Personally wouldn’t go further at the moment

Thanks Jeanainsworth I see. I’ve got Fb friends in Italy and they tell me their promenade has been closed to the public, but then people crowd the town centre!

oops//posted too soon... I know we can all manage to just stroll along a pavement from our front door , round the block and back again. We will all be OK exercise wise if we do that. In the first lockdown I stayed in my garden all the time but the benefits to mental well being, from a good walk, are important too.

Urmstongran at first all NT /Eng Heritage etc were closed in the first lockdown, then government realised that these were ideal spaces for people to walk well distanced... so opened them up again....

Bluesky Why aren’t we allowed to sit on a bench?

Because the virus can stay on surfaces & be transmitted.
One of the very early super-spreading events was in a church in Singapore.

A couple who were incubating the virus but had no symptoms had flown in from China & attended the church.
Another couple who attended a later service sat on the same pew & became infected themselves.

Apparently you have to keep moving... I think it is hard for those with mobility difficulties. Pre current restrictions I met up with a group of friends to walk. One of the group can only join on certain routes and sometimes needs to rest. So it does seem limiting for some people. Again clear guidance would have helped.