Is this allowable do you think ?

In the first lockdown our village was transformed from a very busy one, with a steady stream of lorries tearing through, to a lovely peaceful quiet place. Not so this time, if you walk around the village you have to keep to the pavement, which means you are quite often closer to people than two metres, even if you try and keep in as far as possible.
Surely the wide open spaces of a local NT property, must be so much better.

Lemongrove the Chief Constable reacted to media and criticised his own police force, indicating the approach would be changed.

Totally pulled the rug on a situation they were getting control of and I bet this weekend there’ll be loads of visitors to the Peak District.

Shame on him.

Why aren’t we allowed to sit on a bench? A lot of people need a rest, and I’m sure nobody else would join you on the bench at the moment, and if they did, you would just get up and go!

I completely agree PECS but their interpretation was that they were running as individuals, who just so happened to be running at the same time as 49 others.

Exactly ExD.

This is from the government website

Didn’t people say at the first lockdown last year how empty the roads were, how quiet it all was and how good for the environment?

What’s happened this time to change our behaviours? Are we just LESS scared even though the chances of catching Covid are MORE likely?

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Chewbacca that seems totally against the spirit of the guidance! You can't even play tennis or golf..how can a road race be OK? And there is a fuss about driving a short distance to a big open space to walk alone!
This is where my common sense and others' part company!

Do you remember ? (you will if you're old enough)
"Is your journey really necessary?"
If you want to walk that's fine, you go for a walk - not a drive.

i heard a scientist give a simple explanation of airborne transmission on the radio. it was quite startling.
if you walk past or near somebody who is smoking, you will smell the smoke. even from a distance, even outdoors. he said what is happening is that you are taking into your lungs the same particles that the smoker lately had deep in their lungs.
and then remember the virus has no smell. or colour.

Jaxjacky and that is fine and dandy and I often do similar.

However when there is a big, safe , open space available for people to exercise, and that would reduce the number of people in parks or roads, but requires a car drive of 10 minutes it seems counter productive to prevent its use. I personally feel safer in these bigger open spaces than walking locally.

I live in an area that attracts many visitors, both for walking and canal boating. The locals are currently up in arms because a harrier club has decided to hold a running event this weekend through our village. Approximately 50 runners ran through the village, dodging in and out of customers queuing patiently to go into the butchers and bakers, up onto the hills and down into the next village, where they caused the same problems. When a local councillor phoned the harrier club to complain she was told "They're running in single file, 2 metres apart, so it's fine".

We should not be going out to meet people, to overcrowd places or sit and chat on benches etc. It is permissable to go for an exercise walk.
Exactly PECS, even if we have to drive a tiny distance.
I drove to this National Trust managed path today and walked my dogs for over an hour. I met one man and his dog, and a horse rider in the distance.
As I said on a different thread it was preferable to walking to the closer seafront and having contend with joggers, walkers, dogs on leads, pushchairs, wheelchairs etc.

Hardly essential travel is it? When will people get the message????????

Peasblossom
Derbyshire Police are re-thinking their strategies apparently.

I agree JenniferEccles, you drive to most, most are open, and numbers are limited because they require booking. I don’t see a problem if it is near to your home.

lemsip I think it is pure conjecture how long a daily walk should be, nowhere is a time limit stipulated.

This is the problem with the guidelines, each person may interpret differently.

JenniferEccles

Lots of people on here believe it’s not permissible to drive short distances to exercise, but if that’s true, wouldn’t the government have ordered National Trust properties to close, or wouldn’t they have decided themselves not to keep their grounds open?

As I said earlier the vast majority of them can only be reached by car.

I feel people are overthinking all this exercise issue.

??Yes.

Again I say proper clear guidance from the government would have clarified all this. Why can't they issue clear information???

PECS I do a short circuit twice in the afternoon, if there’s anyone else around, I cross the road. cornishpasty I just run my car in the drive once a day.

Those of you who are slating Derbyshire Police, they have had a hell of a job with the numbers travelling to the Peak District from all over the country. Car parks full, parking in village streets. A number of NT and other properties that people travels miles to.

They’re not draconian. Not if you live in Derbyshire and can’t go out because of all the people who want to be in a place where thought nobody else would go. Except hundreds of people though exactly the same thing.

Why do so many people think “”but it’s only me” and not see that lots of only mes make a crowd ?

Lots of people on here believe it’s not permissible to drive short distances to exercise, but if that’s true, wouldn’t the government have ordered National Trust properties to close, or wouldn’t they have decided themselves not to keep their grounds open?

As I said earlier the vast majority of them can only be reached by car.

I feel people are overthinking all this exercise issue.

I think you are quite aware it is NOT allowed!

You are only allowed out for essential shopping, so not every day...a short walk for exercise is allowed......NOT a leisurely walk lasting ages.

Calke.

Calle Abbey.

Police checked that those who arrived were local to the area, so on foot from their homes was ok.

Those who travelled from a distance were fined. As were those who travelled, parked elsewhere and then pretended they were local!

I did'nt use my car for a couple of weeks before Christmas and the battery was flat when I came to use it for shopping so now I drive a couple of miles to where I walk to keep the battery charged.