Is this allowable do you think ?

I think the NHS plea to stay at home does not mean we should all become unhealthy by not moving. Exercise and being in the fresh air has huge benefits.

We should not be going out to meet people, to overcrowd places or sit and chat on benches etc. It is permissable to go for an exercise walk.

Chewbacca

^No it's not permissable at the moment. All walks/exercise must start and end at home^

Who says HelenLouise? Could you direct me to where this is detailed in any government issued edict? This is directly from YouGov website and was updated on 04.01.2021:

Exercise with your household (or support bubble) or one other person, this should be limited to once per day, and you should not travel outside your local area.

What is the definition of local?

This is all I have been able to find as well.

Derbyshire Police are being overly Draconian.....don’t they have much crime around there?

EllanVannin

Nobody should even be leaving the house except for chemists or hospital appointments.

This is incorrect information EV
Unless it’s simply your own rules of course.
We can legally visit anything that is open for us....including
Supermarkets, garden centres, dentists, chiropodists and all medical reasons plus exercise out of doors.

It makes sense to do a short drive to a fairly secluded green space for the exercise rather than just walks from the door where it’s busy.We need green spaces for our physical and mental health.I think sometimes the police are exceeding their powers ( Derbyshire!)
There are likely to be police or Covid wardens at beauty spots
And checking how far you have come, but NT places are probably not the same.If you have checked with Cliveden that visitors are welcome Nan then I can’t see a reason not to go and exercise there.I was trying to get a ‘well he would say that
Wouldn’t he?’ Into this conversation, but failed.?

Is that even if visitors arrive on foot Carenza?

I’m not looking at government guidance, rather heeding the NHS plea to stay home.

We live roughly 9 miles away from Calke Abbey (National Trust) in Derbyshire, but it has been in the news recently that police have been vigilant in turning NT members and others at the entrance away, and issuing fines because of covid rules.

My point exactly! I could walk to the NT place..and in fact sometimes do but it would take me 40 minutes as it is all uphill! But I can drive in 10.

If only the guidelines had been clear & simply stipulated:
"Daily exercise can only be taken within x miles of your home. You may either walk , cycle or drive to an open space as long as it is within the mileage limit"

We would all know what to do safely and legally...and it would help the police to manage it!

The two women in Derbyshire have not been charged.
The Police realised they were over zealous.
There is currently no law against driving and walking.

If this virus was airborne you'd have no choice but to remain indoors

It IS airborne!!

Nobody should even be leaving the house except for chemists or hospital appointments.

The rules do not say that

BBC news today regarding the 2 women who drove 5 miles to exercise at Foremark Reservoir:

"Derbyshire Police has also been giving fixed penalty notices to people who visit beauty spots at Calke Abbey and Elvaston Castle."
"But later, the force said new guidance from the National Police Chiefs Council (NPCC) had "clarified the policing response concerning travel and exercise".

The guidance said: "The Covid regulations which officers enforce and which enables them to issue fixed penalty notices for breaches, do not restrict the distance travelled for exercise."

As Avalon quoted above “the village, town or part of city where you live”

No it's not permissable at the moment. All walks/exercise must start and end at home

Who says HelenLouise? Could you direct me to where this is detailed in any government issued edict? This is directly from YouGov website and was updated on 04.01.2021:

Exercise with your household (or support bubble) or one other person, this should be limited to once per day, and you should not travel outside your local area.

What is the definition of local?

But then you’re saying it’s ok for everyone to make their own decision about what’s best.

And, like I said, if loads of people decide it’s better to drive to NT property, it won’t have fewer people.
We’ve seen that in the Peak District.

The people who drive are relying on others to stay away and leave the place empty.

Its individuals that make a crowd.

To me, staying in your local area means walking distance, not somewhere you drive to.

Having said that, I’m fortunate and live in an area which is never crowded.

The whole point is to encourage folk to stay at home.

I can imagine that once again, some people who never normally exercise are suddenly desperate to go out for a walk!

I think the issue is about safety. Is it safer to drive 4 miles to a NT or similar which has far fewer people than to go to a local park where cyclists, joggers, youngsters and elders are all out mixing together & dodging each other in a smaller area? We should not be flocking to the coast or driving for half an hour or more but a 5-10 minute journey to a more secluded place relieves pressure on localparks for those unable to drive.

Thank you peaseblossom will look it out

NanKate

About 4 miles from our home is NT Cliveden which has a massive estate to walk round with an Oriental, Long, Rose Gardens, plus woods to explore.

We have been going regularly for our exercise and the tickets have to be bought online and numbers are regulated. They also have a kiosk for take away coffee and snacks.

We are due to go again this coming week. We now have our coffee and biscuits brought from home in the car on arrival to avoid going to the kiosk.

DH thinks the police could say we have driven too far and are having a mini picnic. If they allowed in only those folks who live nearby, they would have virtually no one visiting as it is in countryside.

It’s a toss up whether we go or not.

My answer is no. You are allowed to travel for exercise not to have a picnic too.

I should think all NT properties are like this. I'm a member and regularly walk at one with my dog. It's a 20 min drive but only 5 miles away (according to Google maps).. Cornish country lanes and a long drive up to the parking area.

The NT properties will only loose out by those who have to pay in the car parks.

1:50 in England now testing positive. Deaths 1325 yesterday.
I'm hoping people will not travel for exercise if there is a green open space within a mile or two.

It's open to interpretation as the Gov.uk site says you can travel to exercise !

The Cornwall and Devon superintendent was on local news last night saying /pleading with people to not to drive to exercise. There is no where in Cornwall where people live, where they only have to open the door and walk for at the most a mile before coming to an open green area.

I don’t think you should drive to a walk, it’s horrible, I know, I live alone and miss my walking buddies. It’s so serious, just stay at home. When I see people openly flaunting rules, I wish someone would report and fine them, just can’t do it myself, but it’s like a survival war we are fighting and not fair on all those critical care workers.

I think Jennifer is right, if places are open, we can visit, providing of course we’re not embarking on a long car journey to get there.

No it's not permissable at the moment. All walks/exercise must start and end at home.

Ive got a bike in the garage? And I’ve bonded with the Wii.

H folks, just stay at home for this week. Every little helps when things are so dire. Is it really do much to ask?

My nephews just done 72 hrs on a ward. He wasn’t scheduled for that but he couldn’t leave people who would die if he wasn’t there to intubate them.

EllenVannin I'm surprised that you say Nobody should even be leaving the house except for ^chemists or hospital appointments^; you're normally more clued up than that! Guidelines have quite clearly included outdoor excercise as acceptable, even to be encouraged, provided you stay at least 2 metres away from any one else. Our local authority has stated that we can travel anywhere within our local county to walk, run, cycle etc. So I'll be driving 2.5 miles tomorrow morning to meet up with a friend for a walk where social distancing is easy and safe.

I’m good at doing what I’m told. A local walk around Urmston to one of our local parks. A couple of circuits around the frozen pond in the rose garden, then home. We are out just shy of an hour. Yes, it will get boring but (a) it’s exercise in the fresh air and (b) it’s not forever!

Perhaps having stricter restrictions in Spain during the whole of March & April last year when no-one was allowed out for any exercise at all, even without access to a garden, trust me - those long nine weeks in a tiny apartment have taught me that I’m grateful for what we’re allowed here in the UK.
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