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nanna8 Thu 04-Feb-21 10:28:39

I was having a chat with a few friends today about whether they objected to being called ‘dear’, ‘sweetie’, ‘hun’ or such by strangers . Mixed thoughts on this. Personally if anyone calls me ‘hun’ I feel like slapping them but that is just me.

EllanVannin Thu 04-Feb-21 13:16:13

Blimey, I don't mind at all. Better than being called anything else as you get older, isn't it ? It's how it's perceived.

cornishpatsy Thu 04-Feb-21 12:51:26

I quite like it, the only one I do not like is ma'am, a neighbour refers to all women that way, I am sure he feels he is being respectful but it really makes me cringe.

Sara1954 Thu 04-Feb-21 12:34:38

I like a good gossip to some of my customers during the course of the day, and I think we can all tell the difference between somebody being friendly and chatty, and someone who is being patronising, and sorry, but I do notice regional differences, of course it could just be that I get the worst ones!

Ailidh Thu 04-Feb-21 12:32:27

I loathe it. "Luv" is OK, because up here (Yorkshire) it's a general term of mild endearment. What I really object to is that the older I get, the more women in sort of authority position - shopkeepers, receptionists, nurses - will address me KINDLY as lovey, or my lovely, as though encouraging some feeble old goat. I'm 65. I remember it infuriating my Mum about the same age. She made it to 96, so I'm hoping I've got a lot more years to be irritated!

eazybee Thu 04-Feb-21 12:32:23

It doesn't bother me much although I don't care for the increasing use of 'hey you guys' . However , I suppose it is the modern equivalent of 'come along, chaps', which strangely infuriates those who like to use the term 'guys'.

timetogo2016 Thu 04-Feb-21 12:26:38

As long as it`s not a horrible word/name anyone can call me whatever they want to.
Dh rarely calls me by my first name and my parents called me babs/sweatheart/my love,sadly they aern`t here anylonger.

Sara1954 Thu 04-Feb-21 12:24:13

I’m a southerner myself Jaxjacky, and am quite aware that not every southerner is rude, I was actually trying not to be too specific!

sodapop Thu 04-Feb-21 12:23:37

I don't mind 'love' being a Yorkshire lass. Not so keen on the others but accept its usually a local thing. I do dislike 'hubby' and 'the wife'

Wheniwasyourage Thu 04-Feb-21 12:20:57

I think I know what you mean, Sara1954, although I wouldn't put in geographical categories, more those of age. There are some charming elderly men (and women) who can call you 'dear' or 'love' and leave you feeling warm and appreciated, and some mostly young ones who can leave you feeling furious and patronised. It's something you can feel without necessarily being able to put your finger on why, I think.

NellG Thu 04-Feb-21 12:19:58

Hun is abhorrent. I can just about tolerate the others if I don't feel there is any intent to offend but I have a name and I'm happier if people use it.

I only use such terms of endearment and affection with close family and a few close friends. I would feel I was being disrespectful and patronising if I addressed others in such a way.

Groups are a bit more difficult, guys, chaps, peeps, y'all don't offend me but I'm aware they might niggle others but sometimes life is too short to make a list.

I do feel it's important to listen and learn if people object to being addressed by a generic term - you might not agree, but out of respect I believe it's good to learn that person's preferences.

Jaxjacky Thu 04-Feb-21 12:17:53

I don’t mind most of them, it depends more on how it’s said, certainly don’t mind you guys. But I’m a allegedly ‘a mouthy know it all southerner’, so take my view with a pinch of salt! ?

Luckygirl Thu 04-Feb-21 12:17:34

Not really - depends on the intent - if they say it in a patronising aggressive way, then I might mind; if it is just a figure of speech where they come from then why might I mind?

I do not have the energy to get offended by small things.

Lucca Thu 04-Feb-21 12:17:28

I’m not in the least worried a t people using my first name, why would I be ?
Most of the sweetheart, love, pet, hen etc are regional and just fine. I loved the Bristol “my darling, my love” said together!
I don’t mind “guys”, it’s just a more modern thing.

I have to say I find “hun” so twee and sugary, (along with “hubby” and “aw” and “lovely lady”.
Sorry bit of a rant, things are going wrong today!

Sara1954 Thu 04-Feb-21 12:16:27

Sorry Ginny, I just speak as I find

Sara1954 Thu 04-Feb-21 12:15:22

Agree Rockgran, as long as it’s kindly meant, but sometimes it can be rude and patronising.

ginny Thu 04-Feb-21 12:14:13

Not too bothered , it’s more the way it is said.

What does bother me is generalisations like . ‘I don’t object to a sweet old Yorkshireman calling me sweetheart, but not a mouthy know all southerner’.

rockgran Thu 04-Feb-21 12:09:22

If they are being friendly I don't see a problem. It seems that most forms of address will offend someone. Even if they get your name right there is the minefield of Mrs/Miss/Ms. I'm happy just to be noticed at all!grin

Chewbacca Thu 04-Feb-21 12:06:53

So long as it's not in a professional capacity, I can't see the problem.

Doodledog Thu 04-Feb-21 12:04:33

Nanna58

Oh dear I am guilty of being like Doodledog’s nurse! When I was teaching a colleague heard a child say to a new pupil about me “ she’ll call you chicken, or sweetiepie or pet , it’s not ‘ cos she doesn’t know your name, it’s cis she likes us! “ So perhaps it doesn’t irritate children! ?

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It is mildly annoying, but so long as you did the injection without leaving a bruise (I need them regularly) I would forgive you.

Vickysponge Thu 04-Feb-21 12:03:29

I don’t mind at all as long as it’s a friendly endearment.

Nanna58 Thu 04-Feb-21 11:56:23

Oh dear I am guilty of being like Doodledog’s nurse! When I was teaching a colleague heard a child say to a new pupil about me “ she’ll call you chicken, or sweetiepie or pet , it’s not ‘ cos she doesn’t know your name, it’s cis she likes us! “ So perhaps it doesn’t irritate children! ?

janeainsworth Thu 04-Feb-21 11:55:45

Don't mind guys either, but I know I'm in a bit of a minority with that one

I’ll join you Alegrias.
Having travelled in the States I’m used to it & associate it with the friendliness of the majority of Americans.
A good gender-neutral form of address too wink

PamelaJ1 Thu 04-Feb-21 11:54:10

Isn’t it a regional thing?
I don’t do it but I don’t have a regional link to anywhere. My daughter does and she comes from here. At least she doesn’t say ducks as they do in my husband’s part of the world???

Tabbycat Thu 04-Feb-21 11:51:08

I agree with you Doodledog. I don't like to be called by my first name by complete strangers. When I meet someone for the first time, I always wait for them to say 'Oh, please call me by my first name'. Last time I was in hospital I was asked how I'd like to be addressed, but at most places they just use your first name and presume you're OK with it!

Nannarose Thu 04-Feb-21 11:49:10

Quite happy with endearments, and having worked in a few different places, I love how they are still influenced by place & background.
In my time, I have been: me duck, hen, treasure, luvver, me handsome, chavvi, bor, me gal, girrrl, antiji.
The only one I'm a bit put off by is 'poppet' - my mum's family had a bit of a 'witchy' background, and didn't like it as an endearment.