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Covid precautions poster - should we have one on gn?

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kittylester Sun 07-Feb-21 10:49:57

It seems that, normally, everywhere I go on the internet there is some sort of message, usually offering advice on stopping the spread - should there be one on gn?

JenniferEccles Mon 08-Feb-21 13:24:58

I think this could have been the problem with all the sad deaths in care homes back in the spring.

Hospitals up and down the country were desperate for beds, not knowing how bad the situation was going to get. If care home patients had tested negative at the point of discharge but were in fact still infectious, it’s easy to see how the virus spread so easily in that sector.

maddyone Mon 08-Feb-21 11:12:37

Monica
When I was discharged from hospital I isolated because I was still too unwell to go out or do anything. Like Marydoll my husband isolated with me and took care of me. I had been in hospital with Covid anyway so I wasn’t tested before I left. Apparently Covid patients frequently test positive long after their ability to infect anyone has gone, but anyway it was impossible for me to leave the house. Even now I’ve only walked to the end of our small close, and I went for a ride in the car last week to pick up our grandchildren from school (childcare bubble) as their parents were working. My husband fed and bathed them before taking them home. As their parents have both had Covid and we have too, we felt it was safe to do this.

It is indeed impossible for everyone discharged from hospital to totally isolate. My mother has carers going in and a weekly cleaner. She cannot look after herself and needs her carers, and this is of course true of many people. However these people are not going out and about as they are housebound.

Lillie Mon 08-Feb-21 10:50:25

Well I'll be blowed! All of a sudden I have no problem getting Waitrose slots for home delivery. I did wonder why, but word is that all the older people who have been vaccinated are going out to get their shopping now. The footfall in the supermarkets has noticeably increased.

Marydoll Mon 08-Feb-21 09:55:00

Monica there are obviously exceptions.
My husband self isolated with me, just to be on the safe side, as I too needed support.
I hope your husband is making progress.

Greeneyedgirl Mon 08-Feb-21 09:45:26

I went to hospital for day investigations twice. I found these procedures very safe but each time I isolated afterwards as a precaution to others, although as a day patient I didn’t need to, but had a PCR test prior to going.

A staff member told me that she has a rapid flow test twice a week. They are quick and cheaper, but not accurate enough. I assume they use PCR tests before discharge, I hope so.

M0nica Mon 08-Feb-21 09:35:26

In our part of the country - and I am sure we are not alone - people were being discharged from hospital hurriedly, such was the demand for COVID beds, and frequently still too ill to be capable of being self isolating. .

DH came home from hospital and needed care and help with everything for several weeks. Any idea that he could self-isolate, even at home, would have been quite out of the question.

maddyone Sun 07-Feb-21 23:14:21

BlueBelle I’ve also heard about people quarantining for the required amount of time, testing negative, but then developing symptoms and testing positive after they’ve just left quarantine. The varying lengths of time before showing symptoms and becoming ill is one of the problems with this virus. I was three days only after my husband brought the virus home, and then I started to feel ill. Mind you, I was another two weeks before I became ill enough to be admitted to hospital.

My son in law is a doctor and picked up Covid through his work. He realised he’d caught the virus because he developed symptoms, but the first two tests he did said negative. He self isolated with his family anyway as he knew he had the virus, but only the third test finally confirmed he was positive.

This is one of the problems in restricting the virus. If a test says negative, many people accept that, and if they’ve got no symptoms, why wouldn’t they?

BlueBelle Sun 07-Feb-21 19:40:45

Gosh maddy what a story I obviously had no idea the hospital tests were so useless
My son was telling me today about a quarantine hotel in NZ where a young lady left after 12 days quarantine with a negative test but two days later she was positive so I guess that’s the same sort of thing She must have picked it up in the hotel then came out only to find the twelve days quarantine had been an expensive but pointless procedure

maddyone Sun 07-Feb-21 19:37:19

BlueSky
You’re right, it’s worrying that people are being discharged from hospital, having tested negative and then being told no need to isolate. Mum picked up the Covid in hospital, which is not an uncommon occurrence apparently. When I was discharged I isolated completely apart from my husband who has was looking after me. I was nowhere near well enough to go out anyway, because although I was no longer in danger, I was not at all well. I’m recovering now three and a half weeks on, but it’s going to take time to get back to normal.
I think people who are on non Covid wards in hospital should be told to isolate for at least a week when they leave hospital. Unfortunately hospital is a place where it is easy to pick up Covid even though not on a Covid ward.

BlueSky Sun 07-Feb-21 19:18:20

If you hadn’t mentioned it I wouldn’t have noticed that somebody just out of hospital went out and about. One would follow instructions from hospital and if told that their Covid test was negative and they don’t need to isolate, then they wouldn’t.

LauraNorder Sun 07-Feb-21 18:58:39

Liz46, ‘I’m fine now I’m all jabbed up’.
Frightening that many will have this attitude. Maybe this is the aspect that gn could concentrate on with some reminders. The vaccine doesn’t stop us catching the virus and therefore spreading the virus. It just takes the pressure off the NHS as we’ll be less ill. It will hopefully suppress the virus to give us time to come up with better treatments.

BlueSky Sun 07-Feb-21 18:52:44

Maddyone what happened to you and your family is very worrying indeed.

Blossoming Sun 07-Feb-21 18:50:13

Why would it be mean to point out to the 'lovely and popular poster' the error of their ways?

Actually somebody has, and others have agreed.

LauraNorder Sun 07-Feb-21 18:50:05

I think in the case I mentioned the person concerned is oblivious to the mistake. Otherwise the days adventures wouldn’t be mentioned in such a naive way. The person is not arrogant or the sort who wouldn’t care, just perhaps a bit unaware.
Riverwalk it is a peculiar thing that no one pulls up this person where others would be jumped on. Hard to explain.

Liz46 Sun 07-Feb-21 18:49:11

One of our neighbours had a responsible job yet seems to be remarkably stupid. He had his vaccination and next day his daughter came to his house and we overheard him saying to her 'you don't need that mask, I'm all jabbed up'!

JenniferEccles Sun 07-Feb-21 18:35:52

LauraNorder Is it a question of needing to spell things out to people, assuming they don’t know what they should be doing, or is it the case that some people are well aware of what precautions they should still be taking, but just do what they want, when they want, regardless?

Biscuitmuncher Sun 07-Feb-21 18:32:17

I want an escape from the fear and the brain washing thank you

Blossoming Sun 07-Feb-21 18:22:52

There is a Covid information section on the Gransnet website, click on ‘Coronavirus’ just under the banner heading.

BlueSky Sun 07-Feb-21 18:21:42

Wouldn’t we be warned by the hospital
staff to isolate once home? Because I don’t think many would think it was necessary especially after a negative test.

maddyone Sun 07-Feb-21 18:20:21

Incidentally my mother and my husband were both barely ill, just off colour for a day or so, and a slight cough. It was me who suffered the worst and I hadn’t even seen my mother.

maddyone Sun 07-Feb-21 18:17:37

BlueBelle
My mother tested negative twice before leaving hospital after a fall (a week long stay) but the day after she arrived home she felt ill, the carer rang for an ambulance and when she got back to hospital, she then tested positive for Covid. Unfortunately, as we’d been told she was negative and had no need to isolate, my husband called round to do a small job for her, became infected by her, though they were both wearing masks, and he brought the infection home to me. I ended up in hospital for twelve days, very ill with Covid.
So unfortunately the tests aren’t always accurate and so people coming home from hospital should isolate in my opinion. Marydoll was responsible but obviously not everyone is.

Riverwalk Sun 07-Feb-21 18:16:00

Recently one of our most lovely and popular posters went to hospital, returned home and immediately went walkabout without any period of quarantine. That poster then obtained a ‘mask wearing’ exemption and continues to wander in and out of takeaway food outlets and supermarkets.

Nobody has been mean enough to point this out but it is so important that well meaning and kind people are made aware that they are a danger to themselves and others.

Why would it be mean to point out to the 'lovely and popular poster' the error of their ways?

LauraNorder Sun 07-Feb-21 18:07:05

JenniferEccles, I think it is necessary to spell it out.
I’ve just read another post elsewhere about someone who’s had a jab and feeling more confident about getting out and about.
Reminders about the dangers and reminders that we still need to take every care even after vaccination can’t do any harm.

JenniferEccles Sun 07-Feb-21 17:59:24

Somebody may be tested negative on leaving hospital but they could still be in the very early stages of contracting the virus, but at too early a stage for it to register as positive on a test.

Surely that’s why it’s sensible for the person to self isolate for 10 days to be on the safe side.

I would like to think it wouldn’t be necessary to spell that out to people but maybe it is!

Hetty58 Sun 07-Feb-21 17:56:33

kittylester, I think a message about being cautious and caring for others would be good. OK, it might not make much difference - but it would be a clear statement of the majority view on here.

Even now, after a year of this, some think it's just fine to be open about ignoring the rules. They should be very ashamed and keep quiet.