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Grany Mon 08-Feb-21 16:16:48

Some news about our H o S
RF family want their 1969 documentary to be taken off air. The Queen was talking in it about a governor that looked like a gorilla, in one little clip, of docu seen on twitter.

Queen doesn't want her various shares and their values in companies made public too embarrassing. And lobbied in the 70s to be made exempt from new law. She has millions in off shore accounts.

P Charles land owner lobbied to be exempt from new leaseholder legislation that would have allowed homeowners to buy the land their property sits on.

And when people from the Duchy die with no living relatives P Charles gets the money, with other landowners around the country money goes to the treasury

Then there is Andrew

The 20,000 Sandringham Estate gets millions in subsidies

Queen gets her Wendy house refurbished to her own specifications including a new thatched roof.

Meanwhile in other news a little boy stole a tin of soup because he was so hungry, never mind.

www.republic.org.uk

trisher Thu 04-Mar-21 14:51:40

Casdon

Patients who need emergency treatment first to save their lives are always the priority trisher, wherever they need admission from. If you are a patient in A&E you are triaged, and those who need the treatment most urgently get it first. Are you suggesting that an ageist policy for the NHS would be a better solution, and that patients in NHS hospitals are more of a priority for emergency treatment than patients who are in private hospitals who cannot access the treatment they need in that facility? If you are you are in very dangerous territory.

No I'm suggesting in a system where waiting times in A&E (particularly in London) have reached unacceptable lengths, (only 74% of patients were seen in the waiting time of 4 hours in 2020). When it is sometimes impossible to get an ambulance in London and even then patients wait outside hospitals in them for hours. www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-55581006
All treating one old man so quickly proves is that the NHS is not the service it is supposed to be. It provides one level of service for some and a different level for others. But then I suppose we'd better get used to it because it is only going to get worse.

Casdon Thu 04-Mar-21 14:15:23

Patients who need emergency treatment first to save their lives are always the priority trisher, wherever they need admission from. If you are a patient in A&E you are triaged, and those who need the treatment most urgently get it first. Are you suggesting that an ageist policy for the NHS would be a better solution, and that patients in NHS hospitals are more of a priority for emergency treatment than patients who are in private hospitals who cannot access the treatment they need in that facility? If you are you are in very dangerous territory.

lemsip Thu 04-Mar-21 14:11:39

Just to say that A private hospital buys the NHS treatment needed for one of there patients in a NHS hospital.

Rosie51 Thu 04-Mar-21 14:10:42

trisher the operation on my grandmother was at least 30 years ago. A&E triage so you are seen in order of need. Many people get upset when those that came in after them are seen before, complaining of unfairness. That you not only hate the RF but consider those medics in the NHS to unethically play favourites is apparent and distasteful.

trisher Thu 04-Mar-21 14:03:57

Rosie51 hip surgery is standard in people however old they are. It's because the process is now so quick and easy it causes less trauma than leaving a fractured hip. Many old people died after hip fractures in the past when the operation was in its infancy. Emergency heart treatment for older people is not so standard.
I don't suppose anyone waiting in A&E for hours, or waiting for an ambulance in central London would view the emergency treatment given to one patient transferred from a private hospital to an NHS bed and treated immediately as equal.

NellG Thu 04-Mar-21 14:00:09

I can paddyanne my 97 year old Uncle recently had a bypass repair.

Rosie51 Thu 04-Mar-21 13:57:29

paddyanne Yes I can. My grandmother aged 96 had an emergency hip replacement after a fall. Shame nobody had diagnosed the ulcer she had so she died, in hospital, when that started a terminal bleed.

NellG Thu 04-Mar-21 13:55:35

Again Smiles? It's starting to look a bit desperate if that has to be wheeled out as a defence at this particular time. Pretty sure it's still possible to have a strong opinion about somebody because they're behaving like an epic narcissist rather than anything else.

I am reminded of Ali G.

Ellianne Thu 04-Mar-21 13:55:34

So does PP now go back to the private hospital to recuperate and convalesce thus freeing up the bed in an NHS hospital for another patient?

paddyanne Thu 04-Mar-21 13:51:48

Rosie51 in your dreams ....can you personally tell me of any one of his age getting that sort of treatment on the NHS? It doesn't happen the elderly are not considered a priority for surgery if they were in hospital for any length of time they would be called bed blockers and chucked out into care homes...hence the deaths in care homes at the start of the pandemic

Smileless2012 Thu 04-Mar-21 13:47:40

How is talking about your personal life in such detail protecting your privacy? It's now being reported that M's friends are rushing to her defence saying the whole thing is fuelled by ........ wait for it .......... racismshock.

Iam64 Thu 04-Mar-21 13:47:03

It’s wonderful to see that the NHS remains excellent when emergency care is needed. I’ve no problem with PP being transferred from a private to an nhs hospital for the treatment he needed.
The NHS is a cradle to grave service, free at the point of need. I only wish we had a government prepared to invest properly in the nhs and it’s staff.

Rosie51 Thu 04-Mar-21 13:42:53

trisher your bitter hatred of the RF is showing when you assume PP jumped a waiting list, rather than received emergency treatment the same as any other person in the UK would have. Note I said person not citizen or resident, because that would apply to anyone physically in this country who needed treatment.

Ilovecheese Thu 04-Mar-21 13:30:57

Lexisgranny My husband refused the private healthcare package offered by his company because he doesn't believe in a two tier system.

Anniebach Thu 04-Mar-21 13:30:16

Would Oprah hold a two hour interview with an American tv actress who had married a British soldier with no connection to the royal family ?

For a couple who had to leave the U.K. to protect their privacy
rather odd to be interviewed on a bus and talk about self and
be interviewed for two hours about self, doesn’t seem a need for privacy

maddyone Thu 04-Mar-21 13:26:51

If you’re an emergency patient you get NHS emergency treatment whoever you are. I think we can safely conclude that Prince Philip was an emergency patient. He was a patient in another hospital, it was realised he needed an emergency heart procedure (probably another stent or stents) and he was moved as any other patient would have been. I have no objection to any citizen of the UK receiving NHS treatment.

Mariel Thu 04-Mar-21 13:23:44

Two words of warning - President Boris!

Mollygo Thu 04-Mar-21 13:13:58

I’d feel gutted about a postponed operation, as indeed I do, though not for heart surgery D.G.
Doesn’t mean I begrudge Prince Philip his treatment.
More likely I’d wish I still had the money to go private-and they do indeed do private procedures in NHS hospitals as well as the other way round.

NellG Thu 04-Mar-21 13:08:39

trisher if it was life threatening or an emergency it's unlikely you would be.

People have had to wait for treatment, I'm one of them, but I don't resent people receiving emergency care. Even 99 year old princes.

trisher Thu 04-Mar-21 13:01:30

I just wonder how you would feel if you were on a waiting list for a heart operation and had had it put back time after time because of Covid?

Ellianne Thu 04-Mar-21 12:57:22

Ha ha! A midsummer night's dream!

eazybee Thu 04-Mar-21 12:46:31

I just think: ' Lord, what fools these mortals be!'

NellG Thu 04-Mar-21 12:45:02

My SiL became critically ill a few years back, they had private healthcare and she was seen via that, when it came time for her to need ICT she went straight into an NHS bed. Emergency medicine is a different thing, and will always be provided on a priority care not wealth basis.

Even so, it is possible to pay for private care via NHS hospitals.

Lexisgranny Thu 04-Mar-21 12:40:53

For many years I enjoyed private health insurance and life insurance courtesy of the company I worked for. I was management, but exactly the same package was given everyone, from the youngest member of the company upwards. Strangely I do not recall any employees, including those who were avid union members, objecting to using this, and none of us could be regarded as rich.

Ellianne Thu 04-Mar-21 12:36:54

That is correct trisher. I went for a private consultation but then had to join the NHS queue at the bottom for treatment, like starting over again.
I have heard others get themselves in quicker though. It probably depends on the consultant and the urgency.
PP is obviously an exception, wrongly or rightly, because of who he is.

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