Megan and Harry again!

Totally agree

I think the Royal Family (firm) must accept some of the blame for Harry wishing to live abroad with his wife and children, making a young child walk behind his mothers coffin through packed London streets must surely have impacted his mental health and his feelings towards those who made him do it. I am just thankful that William does not appear to be as damaged by the experience, perhaps the Middleton family have helped him to experience family life outside of the Palace.

(Obviously this is only my opinion and no one other than the parties involved know the whole story)

i think harry has got it tough , he is trying to please everyone ,and like his mum he is keeping his family away from the media . who can blame him . i not sure i want to spend a stiff upbringing such as the royal family ,take charles when he was a boy he shook hands with his motherc and said hello ma'am...at least william/kate are teaching their children good values ,and poor harry is trying to do the same. ok i not keen on meghan(as she does regard the royal family as straight laced . but its how the royal family are . ,and i like them ... . ,but then i dont really know meghan..the queen did say something that got up my nose is that we all share the same comfort/food/and services .??? really . i cant have my heating on ,because i have to pay bedroom tax ,so its heat or eat .and i like my food .i sleep in a cold bedroom /my lounge has a convctor heater for the evenings , the other rooms no heating at all.. all in the same boat .i dont think so.

NellG what a very interesting theory you have put forward. It would go someway to explain the strength of feeling that Meghan Markle has generated.

Diana kept her children away from the media ? Rather a lot of
cameras when she took them to a fun park, rather a lot of cameras when they holidayed at Al Fayed’s villa.

And how is it known that Charles when a tot addressed his mother as Ma am ? That meeting at the train was about 66 years ago so rather silly to compare that with 2021.

GranyGravy. William has said he wanted to walk behind the coffin , this is why Phillip did so, if his grandsons hadn’t done so Phillip wouldn’t have obviously.

trisher
It was a terrible time for Katherine Kent, as it would be for any woman, particularly following the termination that she had to have two years earlier, for medical reasons.
However it would be ridiculous to conclude that the royal family drove her to breakdown. Clearly the termination and the stillbirth drove her to the breakdown, and it is disingenuous to suggest otherwise, simply to fit a personal agenda. In the interview/article Katherine Kent says how sympathetic the Queen was, and that she struck up a friendship with Diana when they both lived at Kensington Palace, so not the stuff of what a nasty royal family driving her to breakdown, rather a sympathetic family giving her support.

Forgot , William and Harry spent much time with Tiggy, no royal trappings, much To Diana’s annoyance they adored her,
Harry is godfather to one of her sons. She attended William and Kate’s wedding .

As I understand it I thought H&M
wanted to keep their lives private so wondering why they are taking part in the Oparah Winfrey show??

Galaxy - yes second rate as not on the top tier. She was virtually unknown before meeting Harry. I don’t blame them for leaving but they need to accept all that leaving means and stop milking the Royal connection.

Would it better if she was a first rate actress, then?

GranyGravy
....William does not appear to be as damaged.........perhaps the Middleton family have helped him to experience family life outside of the Palace.

What a shame Meghan has no family. Oh, but of course she does, but they are not in her life. Why? Why not one other than her mother from her family? She has a father, half siblings, uncles, cousins. Are they all so dreadful that they needed to be cut off? But cutting off all family members, including a grandparent never allowed to even meet his grandchild, is not a good look if you want to be seen as kind and charitable. You know what they say, charity begins at home.

tickingbird

they need to accept what leaving means and stop milking the royal connection.

Yes, yes, yes!

If only harry had married dame Judy dench.

I had no idea about the Duchess of Kent suffering such loss and then changing her lifestyle so dramatically.

An interesting and thought provoking post Nell which I thought I'd respond too as it makes for an interesting debate.

Does M "threaten our reserve and therefore our intrinsic Britishness"? I'm not convinced there's such a thing as intrinsic Britishness but do accept that there is for some.

To infiltrate is to enter or gain access surreptitiously and gradually. I wouldn't describe M's entry to the RF as an infiltration, there was no subtlety that I could see, and rather than being 'a breath of fresh air' as I think some regarded her, IMO she was more like a tornado.

Whether or not it was her intention to 'break' the monarchy is known only to her, but if that were her ultimate goal she has so far failed to do so and I can't see her ever succeeding as they are increasingly distancing them selves, not just from the institution of the RF, but from those personal family relationships.

Your reference to making herself equal was interesting and made me think about what that would mean. Would it mean being equal with the other family members? If so in terms of her personal relationships I'd have thought that was a given. Even with the Queen who after all is her husband's GM.

In terms of her standing within the court and creating a level playing field then no. Harry is 6th in line to the throne so extremely unlikely to ever be king and in so becoming, make M his queen.

I've often wondered how much of M's 'unhappiness' stems from the knowledge than one day, in public at least, she would be required to show a degree of deference to her b.i.l. and s.i.l. when they become King and Queen.

I think M ever being in a position to be a catalyst and figure head for deep change within the RF is unlikely. That said, by living in the UK and having a working role she may well have been influential in some areas,
.
As it is, that opportunity has been thrown away and I can't help thinking that when she married H, in terms of bringing about change within the RF and possibly elevating her own position, her reach extended her grasp.

trisher did you actually read the article you linked to? She actually says she threw herself back into work wanting normality, but realises that was a mistake. Nowhere does she even hint that the Royal family drove her back to work, or indeed to a breakdown. Still don't let the truth stop you from twisting things to reinforce your own agenda.

Katherine Kent was a phone line volunteer for the Samaritans for many years, and was patron until 1999, she is now an ambassador for Sams, she also delivered meals on wheels, never a photograph because she didn’t speak it.

My word can be taken or not, I know the royal family loved
Katherine , I think everyone did.

Maybe you should see if there's a job going in Megan's PR department trisher; you'd do well.

trisher I suspect it’s the clothes, you have described Kate as a 1950’s housewife in her dress

What has Meghan been described as?
I wouldn't even want to repeat some of the the things said about her.

MissAdventure

If only harry had married dame Judy dench.

I'd totally buy that commemorative tea towel!

As far as the Duchess of Kent goes the RF clams to be a 'firm'. If a firm allowed a member of staff to return to work and do too much after a traumatic event and without adequate support they could indeed be described as causing a break down. And this isn't just a firm it is family, who should be even more supportive.
Funny isn't it how sympathy for women depends on if you approve of them.

trisher you are determined to make something out of
Katherine Kent’s two tragedies, and your post really is shameful.

It wasn't the RF's decision for the Duchess of Kent to go back to work when she did, nor did they organise her schedule trisher. How can you possible hold the RF responsible for the poor woman's break down when she doesn't?