Shamima Begum

The question I want to know, is what sadly happened to her 3 babies.. just how did they die?
And while I agree she may possible have been groomed in the beginning, I cannot forgive her for the comment and shrug of shoulders on the Manchester arena bombing .

I understand the anger and the fact many people support this decision. I’m uneasy with it because she was 15, groomed and since then has been traumatised.
The press report that many young men Who went to fight with Isis have been allowed back into the U.K. I accept she may continue to pose a threat but that isn’t stopped by taking her citizenship. Her family is campaigning for her return. They say they weren’t aware she was being radicalised day that they would cooperate with authorities if she returns.
I’d like to see her prosecuted if a crime has been committed. Our male prisons are rife with radicalisation, so perhaps she could cause problems if imprisoned. I’m not minimising the problems.

If she came back she would cost the UK a fortune as she is so high profile and recognisable she would be needing a whole new identity. Hasn’t she cost us more than enough already? I think so, She isn’t the brightest and was easily seduced and recruited. Why take another chance on her? Nah, sorry.

The bottom line is the precedent that would be set by allowing her back to plead her case. There are at least 150 others awaiting this verdict who would then have the same right to return here.
Not all of them are photogenic young women with a ‘grooming’ back story.

How time changes things, she was a child aged 15, the boys who murdered James Bulger were 10 ,

She was a child. It's like saying you cant support the notion that the earth is round. Legally she was a child.

She has only been refused permission to return to fight her appeal case from within the UK. Her case for reinstatement of citizenship can still continue from Syria albeit a much more difficult process.

I cannot support the sentimental notion that ‘she was only a child’ Many 15 year olds are no longer children nowadays. Saffie Roussos, the youngest victim of the Manchester Arena bombing (supported by Ms Begum) was a child. She was 8 years old and probably still believed in Father Christmas.

No sympathy from me. She stated she was ok with it. ‘It’ being beheadings, torture and young Yazidi girls sold like meat to be raped repeatedly. No I won’t waste any time wondering about this decision plus it sends out a message to any others thinking of doing the same. It’s about time the UK stopped being so soft.

I don’t believe in rescinding citizenship. She was groomed while in the UK and while she may have gone elsewhere, we have a duty of care and a responsibility to try and rehabilitate her.

She was a fifteen year old child. As a compassionate society I think we should bring her back, she can be monitored if she poses a threat but more importantly if treated with kindness we might learn a great deal from her so that other impressionable youngsters are not drawn to the same fate.
Her life must be vile right now, there but for fortune ..........

No sympathy with her.

I have no idea what the domestic legalities on this are but, if I were 'in charge' I would have been led by her citizenship and not made her stateless. I'd have brought her back here, tagged her and placed her on a curfew and appointed someone like a probation officer to monitor her. I would have also made her family legally responsible for her whereabouts/activities whilst tagged. She would not have been able to live elsewhere other than with her family for a minimum period of five years. I doubt any of things are possible under current law here - unless she were to be declared insane and placed under a home office section under the MHA. Perhaps joining a terrorist organisation is an act of criminal insanity? Anyway it's all moot, a decision has been made.

Good decision in my view.

The pictures of her on the News tonight, dressed in jeans, top and sun hat, presented a different look to the ones 2 years ago.

Have just read on internet her comments that she felt the Manchester bombings were " justified ". They were the comments of a young woman and not an impressionable schoolgirl. Yes I think she would be a threat to security and maybe a role model for other ISIS sympathisers.

Correct decision,she must never come back here.

She has shown no remorse,agreed with the Manchester bombing etc.etc.

It's very difficult to separate the child from the emerging terroist. Before she left England she was just another 15 year old schoolgirl. Probably looking on the internet she became seduced by the idea of another life with men fighting for their cause. Now years on she has nothing not even a country,she is stateless.
Do I feel sorry for her situation ? I'm not sure how I feel. But I would have liked to have heard her own story and not just the media presentation. Also where are her parents and family ? We don't seem to have heard them fighting for their daughter.

There’s probably more to this that we will ever know. I trust in our intelligence services who I assume have advised the relevant parties.

Dreadful female. Thank heaven she is not coming back here. If she comes back some people will treat her as a martyr.

Of course a leopard can change its spots! Some of this tirade against a woman(once an impressionable young girl) I am reading here sounds straight out of the 15th century.

The lock 'em up and throw away the key brigade are still baying for her blood.

I assure you, there are many far more dangerous people than Shamima.

After the things that she did I have no sympathy for her but she was born here, grew up here she is our problem and we should face up to it and not push our problems onto other countries. So she should be allowed back in and face British justice.

Some crimes are difficult to swallow, despite the law on minors.
I don't know, really, but I won't lose any sleep over her pleas being overruled.

Smileless2012

I agree with the decision. If she wasn't in a refugee camp because ISIS were defeated she wouldn't want to come back.

very true.
Are the public wavering on this because she is a young woman? If she had gone there as a 15/16 year old boy, would they feel differently?
Am wavering on this subject actually, I can’t really think she will be a future risk....but none can be certain.Should citizens be made stateless? I think not, we have a responsibility to take them back whatever they have done, to face prison or charges or not.

Sorry, a leopard cannot change it’s spots. A terrorist sympathiser she was and a terrorist sympathiser she will always be. Having said that, she could instigate terrorist acts, wherever she is. So my answer is, I don’t really know the answer.

GrannyGravy13 I’m with you, I also thought she should stay there and rot too, but and big but, I have changed my mind and think she should come home to face the music.

I also believe she was groomed. I think cutting off her citizenship given she was british born creates a dangerous precedent, I also think she was groomed, and I believe a host of other reasons created the environment for her to be groomed.

I also think that she wasn’t shocked by the heads sounds like the kind of disassociation and shock that soldiers exhibit. She also from interviews does not seem the most intelligent so ripe for the pickings for older men.

I agree with the decision. If she wasn't in a refugee camp because ISIS were defeated she wouldn't want to come back.