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Should I move? I really don't want to. What would you do?

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Pippins6133 Sat 06-Mar-21 21:37:43

I've lived in my property, which I own, for 28 years with my partner. It's semi-detached. We live in the first floor flat of one half of the semi and next door is the whole house. Beneath us is a tenanted property. Three years ago, a gentleman in his late 60's moved in downstairs. He's a retired Squadron Leader, doesn't seem short of money and goes to Spain three times a year for a month at a time (pre-covid). We got on really well to start with. Our back garden is our own private garden but the tenant has access to put his bins out. We invited him to join us for drinks in the garden a few times and we got on well. We agreed that we would take him to the airport for his next holiday and that he would take us to the airport when we would have our holidays. (We have taken him 5 times, so far, and the time we were going on holiday, he told us the evening before that he couldn't take us. No worries, we got a taxi.) Last summer, my partner was in our garden when the tenant came up to him and started shouting, "WHY WERE YOU JUMPING AND BANGING LOUDLY ABOVE MY BEDROOM! IT WILL NOT HAPPEN AGAIN! I WILL REPORT YOU TO THE AUTHORITIES! My partner, (astounded) said that it was not us, but he kept on and on saying that it was us and that we were lying. I rang him to say that it definitely wasn't us and maybe he should ask next door. It transpires that it was, in fact, next door's teenager who got excited over a football match. There have been many other incidents with this tenant and he is making our lives a misery. He snores and grunts so loudly that we have difficulty sleeping. It's horrendous. My partner has to sleep in a tiny room that just fits a single mattress on the floor. The tenant smokes at his back door (that looks onto our garden) and it's not nice when we are out there. He coughs and clears mucus like you have never heard before - great when having our breakfast! He constantly bangs doors, too. We have always got on well with previous occupiers and still friends with some of them. I don't really want to have to sell. Do you have any suggestions? Thanks.

maydonoz Sun 07-Mar-21 10:02:40

Hi Pippins
How awful for you and your Dh, it's miserable when you have to put up with a nasty neighbour and you don't have peace and comfort in your own home.
Personally I would cool/avoid any contact with him, don't complain as it could compromise your plans to sell. Quietly maybe you can find a suitable little place for yourselves, then make your move while he's on one of his trips.
Maybe he will be more cautious with his new neighbours.
Good luck with it all and meanwhile just try to stay calm until you decide what you want to do.

Pippins6133 Sun 07-Mar-21 10:23:54

Hi, JenniferEccles, thanks very much for your reply, that's very interesting. I will try to contact the owner. Thank you.

Pippins6133 Sun 07-Mar-21 10:27:18

maydonoz, that's a lovely reply. Thank you. We are cooling and avoiding him. Hmmm, maybe I should hold off contacting the owner, then. Thanks.

Callistemon Sun 07-Mar-21 10:36:34


Just to add, it’s a private landlord that owns the ground floor so l have no say in who lives there. Thanks for comments so far

Oh, I misunderstood, sorry.

That puts a different light on it and it is a very awkward situation for you.

I would back off from being friendly too but try to retain a polite neighbourliness. He sounds rather odd.

PamelaJ1 Sun 07-Mar-21 11:02:35

We had a nightmare tenant who did things to irritate neighbours. We used to get letters of complaint. I did always follow the complaints up. For example I would tell them that it was not fair and, in fact, there was a clause in the deeds to prevent parking outside ones house because it would impede others right of way. It is a small close.
However, if one rents a property out it doesn’t mean that one is responsible for the tenants behaviour so I don’t think that there will be much that your tenants landlord will be able to do to change this mans horrible habits.
I’m not suggesting that you don’t write to the LL but don’t expect too much.
Is this man starting to suffer from dementia or similar? If he is elderly it may be a factor?
I don’t know how much it costs to soundproof but buying and selling is also expensive. If soundproofing is put in retrospectively it may not work. Sound travels I’ve very strange ways.

JenniferEccles Sun 07-Mar-21 11:22:03

You are welcome Pippins
I do feel for you living under those circumstances.

Obviously at the moment it is a bit more tricky to evict problem tenants but very often a stern letter from the letting agent will do the trick.

Pippins6133 Sun 07-Mar-21 12:35:49

Callistemon, thanks for your reply. We are doing exactly as you suggest. We hate a bad atmosphere. Fortunately, we have separate entrances. Many thanks.

BlueBelle Sun 07-Mar-21 13:11:54

Ahh so that’s cleared the ownership up
If he seems settled then I think I d start looking elsewhere BUT and it’s a big but, sometimes the devil you know and all that, people before now have moved to a lovely place only to have next door sold to someone awful after they have settled in It’s a blooming minefield
I wish you lots of good luck perhaps he ll go to Spain and not come home one trip

Pippins6133 Sun 07-Mar-21 13:59:15

Thanks, BlueBelle, you are exactly right with the 'devil you know' and it's certainly a minefield!

GrandmaKT Sun 07-Mar-21 19:11:29

Hi Pippins, sorry I misunderstood your situation. Just to add that if you are considering moving, and if your flat would be suitable for a first-time buyer, now might be a good time to move because of the help given to first time buyers in the budget. Wishing you well flowers

Callistemon Sun 07-Mar-21 19:25:56


Callistemon, thanks for your reply. We are doing exactly as you suggest. We hate a bad atmosphere. Fortunately, we have separate entrances. Many thanks.

We were going to rent a flat from an ex-Army high ranking officer when we were first married. It was part of their very nice house but he had an In and Out wooden sign which he wanted us to use to let them know when we were home!
We found somewhere else.

Incidentally, one of DH's friends was an RAF Squadron Leader and he is a lovely man.

Yours sounds rather odd, I must say.

Callistemon Sun 07-Mar-21 19:26:51

Well, he's not yours but you know what I mean!

Pippins6133 Sun 07-Mar-21 20:06:58

GrandmaKT, thanks for your good advice.

Pippins6133 Sun 07-Mar-21 20:09:50

Callistemon, that's strange about the wooden sign. Thank you for your replies.