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On borrowed time - the royals

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nanna8 Sun 14-Mar-21 03:22:40

The House of Windsor “Self obsessed and more concerned about their show biz credentials than the well-being of their ‘subjects’ are on borrowed time .” This was from Jon Faine in the Melbourne Age today. Many of us here would agree with him, particularly after recent events. He went on to say that their insistence on the antiquated protocols and pointless archaic etiquette to match is all evidence of unfathomable privilege. You know what, usually I cannot stand this man but this time I think he is right! What makes them so special ? Something in their blood or what ? It is feudal nonsense that we just go on accepting out of habit.

Mollygo Wed 17-Mar-21 22:10:48

Bridgeit

Yes you are quite right Trisher, but that also applies to us, we are sitting here typing away in our own comforts, far far better off than so many , will you change who you are and what you are to redress the inequalities?

Bridgeit I thought that the other day. There’s undoubtedly a wide range of income levels on GN, but I’m not sure what meaningful action I would be willing to take to, as you say, ‘redress the inequalities’.

Bridgeit Wed 17-Mar-21 22:27:27

Mollygo, years ago I remember being told , that any little thing or kindness we do may make a difference to someone just when they need it. Just stopping for a chat , if someone is ok etc.ask . ( note to self to behave better?!) especially on GN ?
Also helping or donating to charities will make a difference, imagine if 1000 people alone donated Just £1 each in one day . Best wishes .

trisher Wed 17-Mar-21 22:45:26

Bridgeit If you gave £1 every day to charity for the whole of your life it would still be nowhere near as much as would be saved by cutting the funding to 1 member of the RF for 1 year. And if 1000 people gave £1 to charity every day for the whole of their life it would e less than cutting the funding to 2 members of the RF for1 year
It may be laudable, it may make you feel good, but in the terms of making a difference there are much better ways.

There are coffee shops and businesses in many towns where you never see a Royal

Bridgeit Wed 17-Mar-21 22:51:39

Ahh yes I agree, but where would it go from there, ? We would then perhaps be thinking of communism etc, & that doesn’t seem to me to be a good idea either.
It seems to me to be an impossibility for a fair world to exists. As I have said before I watched footage of starving children from about the age of seven, now seventy , and so sadly nothing much has changed.

Bridgeit Wed 17-Mar-21 23:00:27

What are the much better ideas please.?

Bridgeit Wed 17-Mar-21 23:00:58

Sorry , Better Ways

Mollygo Wed 17-Mar-21 23:31:24

Bridgeit
The suggestion seems to be more that the RF give up their wealth and live differently. I can quite easily concur with that because it involves no effort from me.
I agree that they have a lot of money and it could do more good being spread around.
However, I am asking how many of the posters about the RF’s wealth on GN would willingly, and to what extent, reduce their own circumstances in order to improve things for others.

vegansrock Thu 18-Mar-21 02:14:24

Nellg there wasn’t a referendum or any kind of popular vote back in the 17th century, so I doubt whether people were clamouring for a return of the monarchy as much as getting rid of Cromwell and his ban on Christmas, drinking, and any kind of merrymaking. If that’s the best example you can find of a republic in the 21st century demanding to become a monarchy then it proves my point.

Alegrias1 Thu 18-Mar-21 09:39:20

The fact that anyone thinks I am anti-monarchy because they are well off is so wide of the mark. I am anti-monarchy because I don't think the UK should be run like a medieval state and I object to people gaming the system to make themselves more powerful.

I'm not calling for the downfall of Selma Hayek and she's got considerably more money than the Queen.

Bridgeit Thu 18-Mar-21 09:44:02

Exactly Mollygo, that has always been my argument.sadly so sadly , third world countries ( I hate that term) are still as impoverished as they were when I as a child, I have mentioned on here before that as a child I watched slides about starving children in Biafra ..... more than half a century later , to quote a phrase ‘ Nothing has Changed, well certainly not enough has changed .

Elegran Thu 18-Mar-21 09:50:37

And anyone who thinks I am a rabid sentimental monarchist because I object to the way they are demonised for every crime anyone throws at them is equally wide of the mark. i would be perfectly happy under a properly constructed presidential system.

However, I don't see the need to turn the inevitable transition into a witch-hunt and a media-show trial so as to justify the change. The changing times and the evolution of public life is enough of a reason.

Shropshirelass Thu 18-Mar-21 09:52:56

I don’t agree with him. The Royals bring an awful lot of money into the UK through tourism. I like having them, I enjoy the pomp and ceremony. There are hard working royals who just get on with it, Princess Anne for one also Sophie, Countess of Wessex (who was also a commoner who has integrated beautifully). They work very hard and don’t crave the limelight. It is their job after all. Maybe it needs streamlining but it is a huge part of our heritage, long may it stay. The queen has been (and still is) a remarkable example to us all.

Alegrias1 Thu 18-Mar-21 09:56:49

Just off to find my previous post to show that the amount of money they bring in through tourism is miniscule....

Something like 2% of our total tourist income.

seamstress Thu 18-Mar-21 10:02:36

How many tourists see the royals?

seamstress Thu 18-Mar-21 10:05:21

shropeshirelass isn't it their "job" to be "in the limelight"? To have their photos taken, shake hands with people they don't know and wave to plebs, have everyone gawp at their weddings, children etc? Otherwise what is their `'job"?

lemsip Thu 18-Mar-21 10:12:47

Shropshirelass I agree completely with your comment .

Bridgeit Thu 18-Mar-21 10:15:50

I keep harping back to..... what about the people they employ, ... I’m pretty sure they don’t want to be made redundant.. & we are talking a lot of jobs through several counties.

lemsip Thu 18-Mar-21 10:16:32

seamstress. No it isn't their job to be in the limelight and have their photos taken all the time, or to wave to plebs, what is a pleb? what a low term.

suziewoozie Thu 18-Mar-21 10:17:22

Bridgeit

I keep harping back to..... what about the people they employ, ... I’m pretty sure they don’t want to be made redundant.. & we are talking a lot of jobs through several counties.

Did you feel this way when mines, steel works etc were closed down?

nanna8 Thu 18-Mar-21 10:17:23

I think the reason they have survived is down to the Queen. I am not a royalist, never have been but I couldn’t fault her. I actually quite like PC, too but I really think they just have too much money and privilege in this day and age.

Bridgeit Thu 18-Mar-21 10:20:37

Of course. ..... and when some of my family lost their jobs, how personally rude!

Bridgeit Thu 18-Mar-21 10:22:31

I can only conclude that you have not, & that you have no empathy for those who would loose their jobs with 5he RF

trisher Thu 18-Mar-21 10:33:41

There's nothing to stop the RF employing as many people as they like, they are wealthy enough to do so.
One of the biggest tourist attractions near here, because of its links with Harry Potter, is Alnwick Castle and gardens which have been turned by a very entrepreneurial Duchess into a brilliantly successful operation. Nothing to stop any of the RF doing the same with their own properties. In fact if they had to earn their own living and were not funded by us they might actually generate more money, develop more tourism attractions and employ more people.
A pity no one thought about all the miners who lost their jobs. There are places still suffering the effects of the total devastation of communities.

Bridgeit Thu 18-Mar-21 10:38:45

I do believe you to be very wrong to think that ‘No one cared about the Miners’ .

Bridgeit Thu 18-Mar-21 10:40:41

That is the whole point isn’t it....... big scale lose of jobs are devastating ...