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I agree with what you're saying suzie. I don't feel proud of being part of something which just is - or past achievements, of which I had no part.
However, I'm happy to be part of the bits of British society I admire. I'm also happy that as a people we're making those things happen. I'm just not proud of some of the more sinister aspects of society which some people seem to ignore or even support - that includes flag waving, by the way. I think we're better than that.
Yes - that’s getting closer to what I mean.