Derek Chauvin trial

nanaK54 I agree. I found it far more upsetting to see it all now than after it had just happened, and back then it was bad enough.
I think it was the disgusting nonchalence of Chauvin with his hands in his pockets whilst kneeling on George Floyd that did it for me.
The young witnesses giving their testimonies at the moment are very brave. One was only 14 when it happened.

Summerlove

JenniferEccles

I don’t know what is poignant about breaking into a pregnant woman’s home and pointing a gun at her stomach which is what he did.

Ok we all know what happened to him was wrong but Floyd was a hardened criminal.

So??
He deserved to die?

But what she posted wasn’t even true in the first place.

JenniferEccles

I don’t know what is poignant about breaking into a pregnant woman’s home and pointing a gun at her stomach which is what he did.

Ok we all know what happened to him was wrong but Floyd was a hardened criminal.

So??
He deserved to die?

Has everyone watched the full video? I saw it yesterday afternoon, it is horrific, no other word for it. Bystanders were pleading with Chauvin throughout, they were watching a murder play out.
Chauvin continued to kneel on George Floyd's neck even when paramedics were trying to find a pulse.
His lifeless body was then unceremoniously thrown onto a stretcher.

Suziewoozie, I was just answering someone’s question, upstream. ?

Yes. But unfortunately George Floyd's record is out there, that should be the case with the officer being prosecuted. Who knows though....

I tune in to CNN from time to time. There's some very powerful testimonies.

Smileless2012

I mean both Summerlove that police will be able to kill black people with impunity and that there will be riots, not protests but riots.

I'm sure the defence prosecution will bring up Chauvin's record JustMe they'd be severely lacking if they don't.

The problem about bringing up a persons record is whether it’s allowed as ‘admissible’ - it’s the same over here and tbf it’s about getting a fair trial. Sadly anything can be said about a dead victim ( see on here for example). In the UK when a man murders his partner, it’s amazing what is said by the defence about her without contradiction and how upset her friends and family are then afterwards

I mean both Summerlove that police will be able to kill black people with impunity and that there will be riots, not protests but riots.

I'm sure the defence prosecution will bring up Chauvin's record JustMe they'd be severely lacking if they don't.

crazyH

Btw, Chauvin has been charged with murder and manslaughter.

Yes I think we know

crazyH

I’m an avid Court TV fan......interesting case. Personally I feel the £27 million payout was excessive. It sets a precedent and will cripple the police force ......

Firstly it was $27 m and the precedent was set a couple of years ago by the $20 m paid out to the family of a white woman killed by a black officer who is currently in prison.I’d already posted this information btw

Btw, Chauvin has been charged with murder and manslaughter.

This trial is going to ignite something if the Police officer gets off. He has had 18 police complaints against him, 7 complaints of police brutality, multiple violent and deadly cases of police abuse, and he has shot three people, two of whom survivted.

The Defence are bringing up George Floyd's drug abuse and past history. Will they bring up Chauvin's record of brutality?

I have seen the footage again. It is heartbreaking. I just hope justice prevails.

JenniferEccles

I may have read it anywhere, even on here at the time.
I am not someone who demands evidence or links to prove everything others post, unlike some on here!

You probably read it at the time - a typical strategy to make the victim seem even worse than he was to make his murder seem justified. I was pretty sure you were wrong because in the credible sources I usually rely on, I’d never heard that fact before. I’m rather a fan of posting the truth and not spreading rumours and gossip especially about murdered people. Yeah I know - odd ain’t it?

I’m an avid Court TV fan......interesting case. Personally I feel the £27 million payout was excessive. It sets a precedent and will cripple the police force ......

JenniferEccles

I may have read it anywhere, even on here at the time.
I am not someone who demands evidence or links to prove everything others post, unlike some on here!

And that, boys and girls, is how rumours on the internet become "facts".

I may have read it anywhere, even on here at the time.
I am not someone who demands evidence or links to prove everything others post, unlike some on here!

M0nica

Of course he will not be found guilty, American police offices are never found guilty of anything.

I think you must have missed suziewoozie's post at 9.35, MOnica.

Though, of course, the police officer in that case was black. I suspect that made a difference...

Well here’s the truth about the lie that was circulated about the woman being pregnant. I’m not for one minute minimising that crime but it might be worth checking sources rather than posting half remembered rumours

www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/jun/16/instagram-posts/no-photo-doesnt-show-woman-george-floyd-allegedly-/

Of course he didn’t deserve to die in that way.
No one is disputing that.

I honestly can’t remember where I read that. It was back after he died but exactly where I read it, I’m not sure but I do remember it being discussed.

I don’t read Twitter or Facebook!

It either way, he didn’t deserve the death he got

JenniferEccles

I don’t know what is poignant about breaking into a pregnant woman’s home and pointing a gun at her stomach which is what he did.

Ok we all know what happened to him was wrong but Floyd was a hardened criminal.

I said the last 7 years because he had been making efforts to turn his life around.

It was in answer to suziewoozie saying earlier that Floyd’s past makes poignant reading.

And no I am by no means condoning what Chauvin did.
Like I said everyone must agree that it was wrong and a dangerous method of restraint, even if it is an accepted method in cases where a particularly violent individual is concerned.

So are you saying that hardened criminals should be killed on the street with the whole world watching, JenniferEccles?

He had indeed committed crimes and had served time.

But surely you're not implying that he deserved to die this way?

JenniferEccles

I don’t know what is poignant about breaking into a pregnant woman’s home and pointing a gun at her stomach which is what he did.

Ok we all know what happened to him was wrong but Floyd was a hardened criminal.

No evidence suggests a woman involved in the 2007 charge was pregnant.

www.snopes.com/news/2020/06/12/george-floyd-criminal-record/

I'm not suggesting Floyd was an angel, but let's get the facts straight.