What did Prince Phillip mean to you?

But privilege doesn’t mean everything is easy - it just means easier. And when someone is at the top of the social hierarchy then it is harder, frankly, to find sympathy for them.

But, much like misogyny oppresses men as well as women, extreme wealth seems like it has a corrosive effect on the people it touches.

suziewoozie you too judging grief by accident of birth,
you think Phillip having wealthy relatives ‘who took him in’ eased the pain of a 8 year old whose mother was seriously mentally ill and father abandoned him.

Why are some so blinded by money .

Anniebach

Why do some believe money eases grief, it does not , sitting in
luxurious home or in a one bedroomed flat with only an electric fire for warmth - the pain of grief is the same.

You are so right Annie...

AmberSpyglass I am not mourning either, I spoke against the
judging of grief suffered by the wealth of the bereaved.

The country is not in mourning, the country was not in mourning when Diana died, yet we had people crying ‘where is the queen’ and the press ‘your country needs you ma’am’

Rubbish , grief is personal to those who loved the deceased person not to the country.

I think that’s a pretty fair summing up Algerias if a tad generous on some points. His childhood was no more difficult than for many others in the war snd being well connected ( through birth and family marriages) meant he was given entree very quickly to the right circles ( including the RF) and a select education. Also not sure how I feel about being a racist: saying racist things. Ducks and all that.

Dog fighting was enjoyed by many , sadly it still is by some

Anniebach I’m not judging the grief of people who knew him, but the idea that we’re in mourning as a nation is preposterous.

What Prince Phillip means to me is that he is even now doing a grand job at highlighting a society that allows an accident of birth and marrying into the right family to set you up for life.

I'm appreciate that he had a difficult childhood and a distinguished war record, and that he was a loyal consort to the Queen, in terms of fulfilling the vows he made to her at her coronation. He's had a lot to deal with in his family and the trials and tribulations they've faced in the last few decades. Like many of us.

But he's got a lot back. He's had a life of privilege and luxury, and has never had to worry about where the next meal was coming from, or where to find 50p for the meter. I'm sure he baulked at first at walking two steps behind the queen and all that entailed, but c'est la vie. He knew what was coming when they agreed to marry. He was a Prince, after all.

BTW I don't think he was a racist, I think he said racist things. That's different. I deplore his treatment of animals, particularly that tiger, but that's what the life of the privileged was like 60 years ago. We should be acknowledging his passing as the UK's longest serving Consort, but not deifying the man.

I don’t understand how some can measure another’s grief , the
Queen’s husband has died, they were married for many years, like all women after a long marriage there must be a feeling of
such loss , perhaps thoughts of ‘how will I cope, he has always been there for me.

I was widowed after 8 years of marriage, my thoughts , how will I cope I thought he would always be there for me.

Stop judging people’s grief please,

Grandma70s

In my family we say that money doesn’t buy you happiness, but at least you can be miserable in comfort.

Exactly.

I am a republican.

Stacey Doesn't See the Point of the Royal Family | Loose Women
m.youtube.com/watch?v=Dbpz-ts74ec

Of course Royalty – and this family in particular – is saturated in blood sports. It’s in the DNA of their “Highland Retreat”, their Empire and their entire worldview. If colonialism is at the heart of the British condition – then domination of nature – extractivism and exploitation are central to this. Sandringham is like a Taxidermy tribute to the British Empire’s contribution to species-loss.

He was a racist. His “outspoken” attitude and “irascible” nature wouldn’t be tolerated, if he were your boss or next door neighbour.

The “outpouring of grief” is media made.

He was married to the Queen, lived a long and privileged life and was very, very lucky to have been set up with her, by Mountbatten.

I am not a Royalist, as you can see. I think it obscene in 2021 when we still have such poverty/homelessness/need that we are supporting them to the extent we are. I’d like to see the monarchy scaled right back.

And now... a bloody yacht!

In my family we say that money doesn’t buy you happiness, but at least you can be miserable in comfort.

Pah. Couldn't give a toss about him and I deplore the saccharine, wall-to-wall coverage about him. One less parasite IMO but I know others would disagree!
He was a racist and bred at least one criminal - that is, if he was the father....

Very true Annie
I’m a republican but can see that the Queen is an old woman,
A bit older than most of us perhaps, that has been in a very long marriage ( also a bit like many of us) and will feel as we would feel about the death of our husband, expected or not, after an illness.The fact that she is the Queen/ wealthy does nothing to help.We can all remember very well the life we have had with our lovely husbands, if we have had a happy marriage, and remember the times when we were young together, had children, then into middle age, and now older age.Having that one person, close to you and always being there for you ....then they are not here, is hard to bear for anyone.Many GNers have had to face that already and will know exactly how the Queen feels.
Have a little humanity with your posts, sooziewoozie and anyone else posting along the same lines.

No *Suziewoozie, money or lack of money does not make grief
easier or harder to bear .

Keeping to the royals, why didn’t wealth save Katherine Kent from a breakdown when she lost her baby.

A man that I underestimated.

Thank you, sir, for letting me into the grounds of Sandringham very early one morning.
I think it must have irritated his protection unit enormously ?
He was, probably, a nightmare to manage!

Annebach - you never spoke a truer word.

Anniebach

Why do some believe money eases grief, it does not , sitting in
luxurious home or in a one bedroomed flat with only an electric fire for warmth - the pain of grief is the same.

Lack of money makes grief worse in so many situations.

Why do some believe money eases grief, it does not , sitting in
luxurious home or in a one bedroomed flat with only an electric fire for warmth - the pain of grief is the same.

Completely agree. Ref my previous post regards racism. I think I was trying to say it’s not uncommon in very elderly people. They grew up in a different world to ours. It’s not an excuse of course and not forgivable. My hope is that each generation will be better than the last until we get to a point where it’s not an issue.

I feel sorry for her but not enough to think about her more than ten minutes, she’s not on my mind and nor is he

And yet here you are posting about them, in quite a bit of detail, which clearly took much longer than 10 minutes.

she s not sitting by an electric fire, all alone and missing her man is she ?

Of all the utter crap I’ve read on here ( & there’s been plenty ) this is up there with the best.

Basically, a very rich, privileged woman with a family, cannot possibly be grief stricken and feel totally lost.

Whitewavemark2

I do think that his death marks the beginning of the end of an era through which most of us cut our teeth in our formative years. The Queens death will end it.

I am very unclear how the U.K. will see itself in the world once this era ends.

I agree Whitewave things will change.

I think the positive things achieved by Prince Philip outweigh the others. He supported the Queen throughout his life and I have great sympathy for her now. Living in the public eye at times like this must be hard.