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How the Royal Family might change with Charles (then William) as Monarch?

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ixion Wed 14-Apr-21 13:49:49

As many here will, hopefully, live to experience the reign of Charles and possibly even William, how do you see the Monarchy and the Royal Family changing, adapting, innovating?
Do you envisage much change?

Anniebach Wed 14-Apr-21 21:49:38

Grany if you mean a president as head of state and should be
above politics why do you always put forward the president of
Ireland ? When he stood for the job he was the Labour Party
candidate

Grany Wed 14-Apr-21 21:21:02

Four major chinks in the armour of Royal Secrecy

1) [Queen’s Consent] power to effectively protect the financial interests of the Queen and Prince Charles in a really dramatic way, by vetting legislation effectively before it goes into the Parliament.

In February, it was revealed that the Queen has vetted over 1,000 laws during her reign as part of a secret procedure used to review laws that affect her. This includes laws ranging from Brexit trade deals to inheritance and land properties; indeed anything deemed to affect Her Majesty or any of her personal property. In one particular case, the Queen successfully lobbied the government to change a draft transparency law in order to hide her “embarrassing” private wealth from the public.

“Now, that is an absolutely outrageous abuse of a constitutional position to do what no other British citizen could ever do, which is to have their own personal involvement in legislation that might affect them and make sure they are protected from it.

“That’s a really critical set of revelations, really important.”

2) [Palace Letters]. Prof Hocking is a historian who, last year, successfully petitioned the High Court in Australia to overrule an embargo over a set of letters related to an Australian constitutional crisis known as the Dismissal. The Palace Letters consist of 45-year-old correspondence between the Queen, her private secretary and the Governor-General in the lead up to the Dismissal.

After a four-year-long legal battle and a final profound victory at the High Court, the Palace Letters were released and, according to Prof Hocking, revealed that the Queen had considerable knowledge of what was going on.

3) [The interview] joins what have been several other very important ways in which that armour of secrecy has been chiselled away. The most recent of these chinks in the armour was Meghan Markle and Prince Harry’s interview with Oprah Winfrey.

4) The final chink in the armour was the Guardian’s successful release of the [Black Spider Memos] in 2015. This came after a decade-long fight for the release of several letters Prince Charles wrote to Tony Blair and his ministers in which he reportedly advocated for certain policies.

The queen has no role to play she can only do what the PM asks her

Polarbear2 Wed 14-Apr-21 21:17:16

Perhaps they should do... ? (Tongue in cheek). It’d have been good though if the Queen had told Rees Mogg to b*****r off when he lied to her. I’d have been more impressed with her then.

Grany Wed 14-Apr-21 21:15:15

But Charles and William want to interfere in politics as what t This RF always done, people thought they were above politics. The RF should be above politics A Head of State does not involve him/herself in politics.

sodapop Wed 14-Apr-21 21:10:05

I think Charles will be a good bridge between the Queen and William. He will streamline things without going overboard. I do think there will much bigger changes to the monarchy after Charles.

vegansrock Wed 14-Apr-21 21:06:48

Those who say the Queen or Charles should abdicate do not understand the monarchy. That’s not how it works.

Alegrias1 Wed 14-Apr-21 19:21:51

Serious question - what makes a person a great king?

(Or Queen, although there is little chance any of us will see another Queen Regnant in our lifetimes)

Millie22 Wed 14-Apr-21 19:17:36

I've got to like Charles a bit more recently perhaps he's improving with age! and I like William anyway who will make a great king in the future.

PamelaJ1 Wed 14-Apr-21 19:15:28

Calendargirl

Abdication? For whom? The Queen or Charles?

Hopefully neither Pamela.

I meant when they get a bit too old and deserve a bit of retirement.
Most of us get a few years without as many responsibilities in retirement. I think that the royals deserve that down time too.

pigsmayfly. Wed 14-Apr-21 18:53:26

I feel concerned that some grandnetters are reporting William has stepped out of line. I don’t think he has. But I may be wrong. So please Gagajo fill us in. What has William done wrong?

JaneJudge Wed 14-Apr-21 18:48:39

I've always quite liked him and I don't care for the Royal family as I have said numerous to. I wanted to move to Poundbury at one point as I just like it as concept. I live somewhere quite similar tbh but older.

I think they need to start self funding after the Queen dies, if not before

Calendargirl Wed 14-Apr-21 18:41:45

Abdication? For whom? The Queen or Charles?

Hopefully neither Pamela.

Calendargirl Wed 14-Apr-21 18:39:44

I have every confidence that when the Queen dies, not yet I hope, Charles will be crowned King, Grany, whatever the statistics suggest,

PamelaJ1 Wed 14-Apr-21 18:38:22

PC has already taken on some of the Queen’s duties. I think he should be King for a while but perhaps abdication is the way forward?
The Queen has always been adamant that she took on the role of monarch until death. It would be good if William could have a few more years until he becomes King.

Casdon Wed 14-Apr-21 18:35:53

It’s preferable to use appropriate statistics.
www.statista.com/statistics/863893/support-for-the-monarchy-in-britain-by-age/

Anniebach Wed 14-Apr-21 18:33:43

I too think Charles will make a good king .

Eloethan Wed 14-Apr-21 18:27:45

There seems to be some appetite in the royal family for "slimming down" though, sadly, those suggesting it don't generally include themselves.

LauraNorder Wed 14-Apr-21 18:03:38

I think Charles will make a good king, thoughtful, reflective and innovative especially regarding the environment. He’ll slim it all down and be more transparent.
I think William in his turn will be the great moderniser.
I do hope some of the great pageantry will continue, we do have tradition that many admire all over the world.

Grany Wed 14-Apr-21 18:03:02

Haha Calendargirl

From Republic. The issue now is whether a man with the support of just 27% of the public should step into the role of head of state when his mother dies.

LauraNorder Wed 14-Apr-21 17:58:40

I have my toothpaste put on the brush for me in the evening if Orlin goes up first. I do his if I go up first.
He always does the morning one for us both cos he is always up first.
Now I’m feeling very royal.

Calendargirl Wed 14-Apr-21 17:57:22

I don’t think Charles will be a ‘traditional’ king necessarily.

I believe he has already stated he intends to be ‘defender of faiths’ rather than ‘defender of the faith.’

I think we will see a more streamlined, modern monarchy, more appropriate for nowadays, and even more so with William. More ‘hands on’, less formal.

I hope to live long enough to see both Charles and William crowned.

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Calendargirl Wed 14-Apr-21 17:50:50

Grany

I would like the monarchy abolished

Yes, we are all well aware of your views on the monarchy Grany

Grany Wed 14-Apr-21 17:23:33

I would like the monarchy abolished

merlotgran Wed 14-Apr-21 17:13:16

What's William done wrong?

Anniebach Wed 14-Apr-21 17:12:50

GagaJo what has William been up to ?