harry and megan

they could have said something earlier, like before the public coughed up a fortune for security

Their faces were already on the tea towels.
They had to go through with it.

Mind you, if they'd called it off, those teatowels would be worth double now.

I assume that those letters were private correspondence Alegrias, not for public scrutiny?

Interesting, Private letters released 50 years after his death

Anniebach

Wish we could have a thread discussing the monarchy

. . Seriously??

Yet, somehow they are in the public domain...because the Duchess allowed them to be published. We can only speculate on what she wanted to achieve by doing so.

Would it have been OK if he had only said those things behind everyone's backs? And we hadn't known, for instance, that he repeatedly referred to Churchill as "Cry Baby" and the Queen as "Shirley Temple"?

The D0W died in 1972 and the letters were released in 1988.

16 years.

The Duchess sanctioned their release in 1975.

Google is my friend.

They were private letters , what he called his niece was his choice, he didn’t say it publicly.

Wonder why he and his wife wanted to be buried in the royal
burial ground.

So pleased you have a friend Alegrias

I am sure some will see the difference between private letters
and a tv interview.

Regardless of what he said in letters he didn’t plunge the knife into the backs of his blood family publicly.

I'm always fascinated on the Antiques Roadshow when they say private letters are only meaningful to the writers themselves and almost worthless beyond that. Even so we can learn a lot about the author and their times.
Didn't Queen Victoria write horrible letters to one of her daughters?

I don’t know Elliane but she didn’t sell them to the press surely.

Anniebach

I don’t know Elliane but she didn’t sell them to the press surely.

Definitely not!
And there must be quite a few families who have code names for relatives! We do!

I do ?

trisher

Namsnanny

Ellianne, I can remember him being introduced as Harry at some event or another, and the host(ess) being quite clear that this was the first of many events that he was to be known by just Harry from now on.

Well that died a quick death didn't it?

I do accept there is no financial worth in him (to employers) without his connection to the RF.

So if I can work this out why didn't he?

All set up to feed the publicity mill from the off.
No publicity is bad publicity say the people in the business of advertising, and they should know.
All part of the H&M band wagon.

So are you saying that he shouldn't have been at a fundraising event or that he shouldn't do any fundraising now because he isn't part of the RF?
Are the RF the only people permitted to fundraise?
Should all the money raised for Covax be sent back? Perhaps with an apology- "Some GNers think this money was raised under false pretences Harry is no longer a member of the RF. Although his dad will be King and his granny is the Queen"

No sorry trisher I must have mislead you.

My comment has nothing to do with any fund raising event, or the amount of money raised, or who or where it is spent!

I'm merely giving examples of the way he chooses to present himself to the press.
With shoes without shoes (look at me I'm at one with the environment).
With title, without title, (look at me, I'm nice like you, not privileged like the RF, Oh hang on, I make more money if I have a title!! No problem I'll shout it from the rafters then).

I'm reminding people of how he is using the press to further his ambitions.

Anything to play to the crowd. To get attention.

Which is the opposite of his original statements, surely?

And talking of 'events'. Surely they are as useful to the celebs photographed going to them, as the money raised is for the cause?

Quid pro quo.

All I am suggesting is he that he knows how to play the game.

I wonder how those who defend Harry would be more understanding of some who criticise him if they had been
subjected to their private family life made public

trisher

Namsnanny

Ellianne, I can remember him being introduced as Harry at some event or another, and the host(ess) being quite clear that this was the first of many events that he was to be known by just Harry from now on.

Well that died a quick death didn't it?

I do accept there is no financial worth in him (to employers) without his connection to the RF.

So if I can work this out why didn't he?

All set up to feed the publicity mill from the off.
No publicity is bad publicity say the people in the business of advertising, and they should know.
All part of the H&M band wagon.

So are you saying that he shouldn't have been at a fundraising event or that he shouldn't do any fundraising now because he isn't part of the RF?
Are the RF the only people permitted to fundraise?
Should all the money raised for Covax be sent back? Perhaps with an apology- "Some GNers think this money was raised under false pretences Harry is no longer a member of the RF. Although his dad will be King and his granny is the Queen"

Lucca - no I’ve never said H and M are sacred cows, or saints, or any other nonsense either.
Trisher, thanks for making me smile after catching up on yet another let’s criticise Harry and Meghan thread.

Does it really matter what or who the post is about is about? The O P may be lonely and might just want to engage in conversation.

Iam64 who don’t you ignore these threads, you read them and criticise posters.

Anniebach

Iam64 who don’t you ignore these threads, you read them and criticise posters.

I’m really fed up with those sorts of comments - anyone can read any thread they want and criticise any posts they want. What are you actually trying to say with a post like this?

Anniebach, what do you mean? Why shouldn’t I comment /

Your fed up suziewoozie ? So am I , of your constant mocking , why do it ? For applause from your like ?

Iam64. Why comment on posters ? What do you get from it ?

Redhead56

Does it really matter what or who the post is about is about? The O P may be lonely and might just want to engage in conversation.

I don’t think so. OP has not returned to the “conversation”.

Understandable, with the criticism, why do you all do it ?

It all started honestly I think because some people could not believe another thread had been started saying the same stuff about h and m. The point is that nothing new is likely to be said and (believe me it’s true) while I personally am not a “supporter’. I genuinely think the criticism at times gets nasty.