harry and megan

If people want to start a conversation because they want to engage in conversation, there are lessons to be learnt from yesterday when we had a lovely conversation about a beautiful hat somebody made.

I just read the whole thread. The only criticism of posters came from the side who don't like to be disagreed with and think H&M embody the anti-Christ. If you join in a thread criticising people you've never met, just to get people going, expect what comes your way.

When I pointed out how much money they raised, somebody actually questioned the honesty of the people raising the money.

And none of us are getting off the thread. That tactic's getting very obvious, and its not going to work.

The Duke of Windsor appears to have been a rather self centred individual from what we hear about him. A couple of generations down the line we have Harry, who also strikes me as a self centred individual. I feel that any person who gives an interview to a world famous interviewer and proceeds to throw their family under a bus really cannot be a very pleasant individual, just as cosying up to Hitler during the last war suggests an unpleasant individual.

Maddyonegiven what happened to one member of Harry's family I think "throw their family under a bus" might be inappropriate. (especially as there are rumours that the accident involved was actually orchestrated by the family and their connections).

Inappropriate possibly !. I personally don’t buy that conspiracy theory but maybe I’m naive

Well maybe you’re right trisher and so I’ll call it complains publicly to a famous interviewer about alleged shortcomings of their family.

Lucca I’m assuming you mean The Duke of Windsor. I don’t think there was a conspiracy myself (but am not well enough informed to be categoric) but I have seen photos of him with Hitler. I was of the impression that The Duke of Windsor and his wife lived much of the time in the Carribean so not that close to Hitler.

At the end of it all, I guess most of us would not feel it appropriate to go on to a television show and make allegations about the behaviour of our nearest and dearest. Whilst the world and his dog are not waiting with baited breath for any revelations I might choose to disclose, I simply would not do that to my family, were there anything of note to disclose. Most people would not, despite any perceived faults.

maddyone you mean ike Harry's mum did to Martin Bashir?

Maddy the conspiracy theory to which Lucca was referring was the Diana's death one ie she was murdered (I think!)

He didn’t care what the interview did to his family, that’s the thing.The damage it could cause to the RF and the personal hurt he was causing to the Queen ( his grandparents) his Father and his brother.At a time when his grandfather was very ill too ( he could have asked for the interview to be postponed from being broadcast.)
Their own pique and petulance was more important to them.

maddyone just as cosying up to Hitler during the last war suggests an unpleasant individual.
I might be wrong, but I don't think the Duke of Windsor 'cosied up' to Hitler during the war did he? A lot of people thought he was a very dynamic, charismatic leader before the war and may have associated with him. It was only later they all saw his true colours.

FannyCornforth

Maddy the conspiracy theory to which Lucca was referring was the Diana's death one ie she was murdered (I think!)

I was.

I think that he (Harry) is as thick as mince, unfortunately.
And of course, due to his huge previledge, he can't see it.
That's why he does so many thoughtless, daft things.
He means well though.

Chestnut I believe that you are correct.
I've been reading a lot about that period, particularly about Wallis Simpson and also the Mitfords.

Yes trisher exactly like that.

Well ladies, I did say I didn’t know much about The Duke of Windsor didn’t I? But I have definitely seen pictures of The DofW with Hitler, and so maybe not cosying up, but definitely approval.

Maybe Fanny you can tell us more as you’ve been reading about it. I know I don’t know much.

FannyCornforth

Chestnut I believe that you are correct.
I've been reading a lot about that period, particularly about Wallis Simpson and also the Mitfords.

Oh yes please Fanny can you enlighten us what went on?

Chestnut

maddyone just as cosying up to Hitler during the last war suggests an unpleasant individual.
I might be wrong, but I don't think the Duke of Windsor 'cosied up' to Hitler during the war did he? A lot of people thought he was a very dynamic, charismatic leader before the war and may have associated with him. It was only later they all saw his true colours.

I’m assuming you mean Hitler was charismatic Chestnut. He probably was just that, unless you happened to be Jewish, gay, or in some way disabled. Then he was someone to fear. I know the Jewish community were very frightened when he became Chancellor.

Unfortunately Maddy, I'm not particularly good at remembering things at the moment, so I'm not exactly a good source or good at being put on the spot iyswim.

I do know that there has recently been a book published that claims that the Duke of Windsor was actually a Nazi spy; it's been very well received, so you could be barking up the right tree after all.

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The Duke of Windsor spent most of the War as Governor of the Bahamas. Before that he had close links to the Nazis and his abdication was described by them as “a great loss”.

My ex-mother-in-law was a child when the Duke of Windsor (then the Prince of Wales) visited her home for a house party. The red carpet was rolled out for his arrival, down the steps and onto the drive. All the servants were lined up and the family to greet him.

The car drew up and he tumbled out, so drunk that two aides had to carry him upright. As he advanced he vomited all along the red carpet and up the steps, with the servants curtsying and bowing as he passed and reached the family. At which point he patted her on the head and passed out.

It was memory that never left her ?

Precisely maddyone I echo your last paragraph

I find it incomprehensible that any supporters of theirs arnt ashamed of the callous entitled behaviour they have shown.

BTW, I've read that resulting in bringing Hitler into the conversation is a sign you know you've lost the credibility of your position!

Peasblossom what a brilliant story!
Thank you!

Oooh Fanny that’s interesting. I wouldn’t have thought The DofW was a spy myself, but hey, what do I know.

The Duke of Windsor was probably a weak character, and maybe easily led which is why he fell for Hitler's charms, as did many people. I'm just not sure he was still a follower when it transpired exactly what Hitler was up to later in the war. No-one realised quite how horrific Hitler's dreams were at the start of the war.

Peasblossom

The Duke of Windsor spent most of the War as Governor of the Bahamas. Before that he had close links to the Nazis and his abdication was described by them as “a great loss”.

My ex-mother-in-law was a child when the Duke of Windsor (then the Prince of Wales) visited her home for a house party. The red carpet was rolled out for his arrival, down the steps and onto the drive. All the servants were lined up and the family to greet him.

The car drew up and he tumbled out, so drunk that two aides had to carry him upright. As he advanced he vomited all along the red carpet and up the steps, with the servants curtsying and bowing as he passed and reached the family. At which point he patted her on the head and passed out.

It was memory that never left her ?

Did this happen in the Bahamas Peasblossom?