harry and megan

walking behind coffins were and are carried out with dignity with respectful people standing silently as the coffin passes,
the hysterical, screaming masses at that funeral were shameful .

Much has been said about the walking behind Diana’s coffin. Whether right or wrong, this happened back in 1997, 24 years ago. In the intervening period, times have very much changed, but back then, it was the expected thing for male members of the Royal family to walk in the funeral cortège.

The Earl of Wessex’s son didn’t walk behind the Duke of Edinburgh’s coffin, his grandfather, in April, he is 13/14. Instead, he stood watching with his mother and sister, Sophie’s comforting arm around his shoulder. Unheard of back in the 90’s. None of the Royal women wore shoulder length veils, which they would have done years ago.

You can’t change the past, you can only learn from it. I’m sure the monarchy are changing and learning all the time, and Harry’s sad experience is part of that. But his constantly going on about it won’t make it go away.

I was brought up by a single Mum with a waste of space Dad who hasn't been in my adult life at all. Does that me dysfunctional too? not understanding how normal families work? as I appear to have managed to bring up my own family alright, lots of people do.

I think a lack of discretion and boundaries can be one of the symptoms of acute mental illness. A shame no one is game to tell him and counsel him. He should change his psychiatrist.

Most people can understand a member of the RF not wanting to carry on with something they no longer feel happy about; it is the manner the couple have gone about it which has led to criticism and threads like this.
The Duchess of Kent withdrew quietly from royal duties with the blessing of the Queen and incognito, taught music in schools.
The Earl of Harewood, likewise withdrew and worked hard in the field of opera, his major passion.

PH is like many young men in the forces who are attracted to the discipline and structure it gives their lives and thrive under its certainities.

Many are lost and uncertain when they leave, many end up homeless and drug or alcohol dependent, Well, PH has been spare that, but once he came out of the army, it was easy to see what a lost soul he was, uncertain and purposeless.

I can see what attracted him to his wife, she comes from a dysfunctional family as well, indeed she has no experience at all of how functional families work. My God what bores they must be, constantly talking about their miserable lives, astill if they talk to each other, it least it stops them boring anyone else.

PH is not the sharpest knife in the box, but his wife is both brighter and has a commercial mind and could show PH how he could make the break he clearly wanted to make and be able to afford to do so.

Well, he has done it, but the problem is that his only saleable asset is his stories of the horrors of growing up in the Royal family, but there is only so much you can flog a dead horse lije that. Soon the Americans will be as bored by him as we are, then what?

The only reason that the press report what Harry has said is because he’s a Prince. It’s a shame they report it all because it really isn’t natural or normal to tell the entire world about your mental health difficulties. It isn’t healthy either, except for the bank balance. Seeking help from a therapist is a good thing to do if it’s necessary, but it really should be 100% confidential. The things Harry has said can never be taken back and will probably contribute to further mental health difficulties in the future due to the sharing of his difficulties in public.

Ellianne

JaneJudge

you need to sell your story to Oprah galaxy, do you have a mice garden with a pergola?

A mice garden is one up on a chicken coop!

the marvellous mechanical mouse organ!

Jeremy Vine might be interested

JaneJudge

you need to sell your story to Oprah galaxy, do you have a mice garden with a pergola?

A mice garden is one up on a chicken coop!

I bought a new garden furniture set from homebase today does that count?

you need to sell your story to Oprah galaxy, do you have a mice garden with a pergola?

Yes I used to drink and smoke, I dont do either anymore. I think I am ok, maybe I am not

I just thought he'd grown up and got married?

Lots of men who drink and play hard arent at all happy.

EllanVannin

How has this fun-loving young man who'd enjoyed his life in the forces, who once worked hard, played hard and generally enjoyed life with his drinking/ smoking pals suddenly end up the wet-wipe he is today ? The change is dramatic.
People don't just change overnight.

If he was a female people would be up in arms talking about coercive control.

Yes, so true. (GN - why can't we just have a 'like' button for gawd's sake?)

Is there need to make it public and causing hurt to make oneself feel better , I don’t agree

Harry spoke of a family member speaking of his child’s colour of skin, which family member, father, Step mother, brother, sister in law, uncles, aunts, cousins , did he find this helped

lemsip

harry didn't know he was unhappy till he met meghan and she told him!

Well said, Lemsip. My thought exactly!

I don't think he regrets telling the story though, he talks about the situation quite a lot, particularly in his comedy. People have different ways of dealing with difficult childhoods.

Galaxy

It's interesting isnt it. I am just reading David baddiel talk about this. He wrote a book about his upbringing which was nearly as complex as Harry's and William's. He feels that he is entitled to talk about his own experience and I think I tend to agree with him.

I seem to remember DB saying in a documentary about his father's dementia that he wished he had been able to "make up" before his dad got sick. Something like he would never get any connection back.
It's sad to think that one day it could also be too late for Harry and Charles to resolve their differences, or any estranged parent and child.

Alegrias1

People will write theses about this in the future....

Worldwide pandemic; Gaza in flames; India in crisis; little boys die in gas explosions.

GN top thread : posh bloke and his wife upset the Queen (allegedly)

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Alegrias ? - It's probably a useless function, like many on here.

Actually, with all that is going on in the world which is so agonising to hear about, I for one do need a bit of light relief reading most of the posts on this thread which are taking the Michael out of a rich, self-indulgent prince who has proved to be less than charming.

I don't understand how or why inflicting pain on others helps anyone on their journey to self-understanding and becoming a better, more empathetic, fulfilled person as a result.
Good point Callistemon.
Maybe it is a way of making yourself look good, thereby excusing any bad behaviour on your part?

It's interesting isnt it. I am just reading David baddiel talk about this. He wrote a book about his upbringing which was nearly as complex as Harry's and William's. He feels that he is entitled to talk about his own experience and I think I tend to agree with him.

Ooh now it’s revenge!

trisher

lemongrove

Couldn’t he talk to a therapist in private trisher ?
Well, we know that he could, there’s no need to do all his therapy ‘on air’.

But part of these therapies is that you are open and honest about things lemonand you share your experiences

With a qualified therapist in a consulting room who will help you to work through your own feelings and come to terms with them.

I think he has far more to come to terms with than he realises but making it so public will not help him or his own family in the future.