Boris and Carrie have got married!

Beswitched, I totally agree with your post!
I have a friend and ex colleague, married in the Catholic Church to an abuser, who once divorced from him for the sake of her mental and physical health, was denied the scaraments and a second marriage to a thoroughly decent man by the Catholic Church.
No wonder I, as practising Catholic, am becoming very disillusioned with the Church, when a serial adulterer is allowed to marry in the Church.

Boris has married his mistress creating a vacancy ! Cynical me...

They may be Catholic in name, but the way they live their lives Boris in particular, shows no adherence to Catholic teaching. Unless he's had a Damascus moment, Boris is being hypocritical and disrespectful.

Lovetopaint037

It was on Apple News as it came up on the iPad screen. It’s on there now. Westminster Cathedral was cleared for the hour and a half ceremony. The bride was reported to have worn a long white dress but no veil. The baby was there as well.

No comment what he wore. what is with the no veil comment?
nice the baby was there.

FarNorth

I don't understand why any woman would be remotely interested in this oaf.
Since Carrie is interested in him, I'm very dubious about her powers of reasoning.

I think her powers of reasoning are absolutely sound. She is able to live a most luxurious lifestyle at absolutely no cost to herself or her new spouse. He has already turned a blind eye to a £200,000 refurbishment of a flat, taken her on luxury holidays at other people's expense, arranged for free high end takeaway meals, provided her with a Union Jack flagged plane for those little getaways, and, as a wedding present, is providing a luxury ship, called a Royal Yacht (a snip at £200million of public money) for when they want to travel in a more leisurely fashion.

He's clearly settling in for the long haul at No. 10, Carrie's prospects for future lavish spending financed by the state and by tory donors are excellent.

And people wonder what she sees in him? Duh....

I'm sure all Churches, including Catholic have rules around divorces remarrying especially when the divorcee was the cause of the previous marriage collapse and children are involved.

I'm intrigued too Callistemon.

The Catholic Church disregard the previous marriages , civil or In a non Catholic Church, and don’t count them. They didn’t happen. They regard this as his first marriage.

How does that make the previous wives and children feel, I wonder.
The Catholic Church is a law unto itself!

Are people who have paid for an abortion allowed to get married in the Catholic Church?

I’d guess they can go to confession now and be absolved of all the bad things they’ve done (tongue in cheek - I know I know..).

My remark was tongue in cheek Lin52
I'm finding it all intriguing as we have a mix of Catholics and non-Catholics marrying in various venues in our family.

I know a registrar used to have to be present at marriages in Catholic churches as otherwise the marriage was not legal in the eyes of UK law. Presumably still the case.

Why do I keep thinking of Anne Boleyn and Henry V111?

Callistemon

Kali2

are they both Catholic?

Perhaps not.
So she could be married but not him??

Curiouser and curiouser!

As he was not previously married in a Catholic setting, his previous marriages were not recognised by the Catholic Church, as a civil marriage is not a marriage in their eyes. To me the law of the land outstrips any religious saying.

vegansrock

I wonder if those gushing over the wedding are the same ones who claim no interest in Johnson’s’s private life.

I haven't seen any gushing

However, it does seem to be quite an interesting topic, even for those who proclaim that they are not interested. ?

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It was on Apple News as it came up on the iPad screen. It’s on there now. Westminster Cathedral was cleared for the hour and a half ceremony. The bride was reported to have worn a long white dress but no veil. The baby was there as well.

I wish them a happy marriage

JaneJudge

Are people who have committed adultery outside of marriage many times in many marriages allowed to get married in Catholic Cathedrals

Yes, called a non sacramental marriage, still legal in the eyes of the Church, and the law.

You’ve got to hand it to them for managing to keep it under wraps, especially as there were indications that it could be next year.

A very low key, small intimate wedding was definitely the best option.

I wonder what the honeymoon timing and plans are.

Indeed and means that when they try to offer moral guidance it cant be taken seriously.

Just goes to show how religions adapt "God's will" to suit their human ends. Trouble is they get themselves in a terrible tangle, as they have here with tortuous rules and regulations.

whitewave ....no, it isn’t bullshit, it’s exactly as Chardy and
Terribull say.
The Catholic Church doesn’t recognise marriage in other denominations or registry office.

Amazing that they were able to keep it secret ( these days!) and nobody knew until after the event.
They were engaged so hardly a surprise, but I had read they would be married next year, shows the media don’t know everything.

*A catholic cannot be Prime Minister" damn! that rules me out. "There was/is a regular poster who is an expert on all things Catholic" Definitely not me Fanny, it's hard to be an expert when there's 50 shades of grey and umpteen anomalies attached to such a load of man made rubbish as to the catholic church's no go areas.

Boris getting married in England's premiere cathedral certainly brought a smile to my face, having been imbued in the whole catholic rigmarole when I was growing up, divorce was right up there with mass murder, a transgression so serious never to be forgiven it seems, no matter how many confessions, Hail Marys, Mea Culpas or in Boris' case a fair measure of Mea Maxima Culpas one chucks at it.

Where would the catholic church be without its wonderful anomalies, just marry in a register office, or God forbid and far worse another denomination's church and hey presto, for the purpose of getting married properly in a catholic church at a later stage, that first marriage, or indeed subsequent marriages never happened! As for the poor unfortunates who were never baptized well it's as if they never existed and an afterlife stuck in limbo awaits them, or so we were told all that trying to get under a low bar for an interminable amount of time doesn't bear thinking about no matter how lithe the un baptized deceased person was in their previous life

I speak as a divorcee who first married in a registry office, second time around, if I so wished I could have married in a catholic church because my 2nd husband's first marriage was in a congregational church, as such didn't count. I have a very close friend who takes her catholicism far more seriously than I do. She married in catholic church, the marriage broke up, she went through the entire rigmarole of getting an annulment, really to please her parents, as we were heading up to our late 20s, I did mention to her at the time, that she is of age now where she is more likely to meet a second time arounder. Hey Presto! that happened and of course she couldn't get married in a catholic church, and I believe, as a divorcee she can't receive communion either. However, if like me she'd married in a registry office first time around, then it would all be hunky dory. So, as I'm prone to tell her it's all a load of bollocks rather ridiculous and the sooner one comes to terms with the fact that the church is a man made patriarchal construct shot through with flaws and contradictions the happier some of its angst ridden divorcees will be!

The whole annulment thing is a complete nonsense, I can see how non consummation or a forced marriage would warrant that being granted, but as I know from my friend and a couple of other people, annulments can be obtained on spurious grounds, it's divorce lite imo, and as in Boris's case what of the children of those annulled marriages?

Anyway would just loved to have been a fly on the wall when the priest was giving Boris and Carrie instruction on their forthcoming marriage.............I mean what the to slip into the vernacular how did they keep straight faces

Indeed- and truly exposed the vast hypocrisy. What an insult to all those 10s of 1000s of honest, wonderful couples, who have been refused mariage in the Church for so long. Truly appaling.

I wish them a long and happy marriage.

Whatever my thoughts are regarding the PM, he has always refused to speak about his private life, as opposed to many folks in the public eye who are happy share every detail...

Chardy

Rules are :-
2 baptised people - 1 a Catholic
Previous marriages of divorcé weren't in Catholic churches so therefore not recognised by church
Says BBC

B..........s - not you - but what the BBC said.

Try getting that past the Catholic Church if you aren’t a PM.

The Catholic Church has shot itself in the foot.

Well that sounds completely logical.