Boris and Carrie have got married!

Fairly sure someone gave chapter and verse earlier in the thread FannyC but I guess people don’t read earlier posts

Well done Blossoming! That's that sorted out!

Appalled that they were allowed to marry in a Catholic Church. Appalled that people are prepared to ignore the lies that Mr Johnson has told throughout the pandemic , well not just through the pandemic but his entire personal, political and journalistic life. Appalled that the public calls him Boris because it gives him licence to act like a buffoon.

Lovely news. A couple in love. I wish them well.

Have not read all the posts on this but it happens that the Catholic Church does not recognise marriages that are conducted outside the Catholic Faith. Neither of Boris' two former marriages were Catholic ceremonies so all OK. No Annulment needed.
They will not be the only couple in the entire country who have conducted their nuptials in this manner.
Blessed Be.

Great news? 18 pages of comment? many Gransnetters must feel very differently from me.

Granny1810

If he is Catholic he cannot be PM. Simple as that.

Yes he can. Gordon Brown changed this when he was pm.

If previous marriage was a civil ceremony they can marry in church. So many cynical people in here. Just wish them well for goodness sake.

I thought if you were divorced. you couldn't get married in a church?

After all he has had to deal with over the past year, including of course becoming seriously ill himself, can anyone begrudge him this lovely sounding quiet low-key wedding?

He’s had a hell of a time since winning the GE so comprehensively and of course it hasn’t ended yet with decisions to be made about whether it would be wise or not to allow further lifting of restrictions later this month.

Like every decision he has had to make this year he will be bombarded with opposing views about what to do next, a decision he will be judged on in due course.

Apparently allowed as Boris has not been married in a Catholic Church before therefore his previous marriages were not recognised, that is according to a Church official.

Susieq62

I am disgusted by his behaviour, philandering, lying, lack of decency towards his second wife plus children! Does Carrie realise she will be looking after her grandad in the future? The age gap is huge! They do not deserve my congratulations !!!

The age gap between my husband and I is even huger.
We've been together extremely happily for 23 years.
Your comment is rather nasty (although I totally agree about his treatment of MW)

Divorcees cannot marry in an RC church. Boris is twice divorced.
Apparently if you have been married before, but not in a Catholic church, the marriage and divorce just don't count. You can then marry "properly" in an RC ceremony. Talk about double standards!!

I don’t care about all the ins and outs,
Catholic Church etc etc
She looked absolutely beautiful and he looked smitten.
Good luck to them!

If he is Catholic he cannot be PM. Simple as that.

What I don’t understand is why ‘conservative’ Conservatives voters don’t seem to be appalled by their PM’s lack of morals. I’m not talking about people on the forum by the way but voters in general.

This is just a bloody farce and as a ‘cradle catholic ‘ I have already written to Vincent Nichols (catholic cardinal of Westminster ) about it.
I see that Carrie’s father ( from whom she got her ‘cradle Catholicism I suppose didn’t turn up at the wedding. Quite frankly I wouldn’t have turned up to see my daughter marry a scruff bag twice her age with 2 failed marriages, lots of children ( including illegitimate ones - not really acknowledged ) and having forced several other women to have abortions .
I couldn’t care less, what denomination he says he is - what parent would want that for their ( relatively young ) daughter ?

Now turning to Boris, we have the usual ‘ once a catholic, always a catholic ‘ crap.
The Catholic Church has decided that he’s a catholic purely because as a child he had a catholic baptism. He was confirmed as an Anglican, did not attend catholic schools and of course has had 2 legitimate marriages ( apart from other ‘ goings on ‘ ).
But hey, the Catholic Church will say that he is a catholic by baptism, so both his other marriages were invalid as they were not catholic ceremonies, and hey presto he can marry in a Catholic Church ! They’d have said the same thing if he’d had 10 previous weddings not under catholic rules, because they’ve claimed him as a perpetual catholic by reason of his infant baptism!

Now clearly Vincent Nichols is highly embarrassed by all this and had some poor ‘ stooge ‘ young priest conduct the ceremony.
Said priest gave an interview and said they didn’t know Carrie and Boris were turning up to get married that day. This must be a total lie - the chapel would have had to be booked with the admin staff plus the Banns would have to have been out for 3 consecutive Sundays previously, or more probably put up on a notice at the back of church for several weeks for anyone to view.
Anyone think all this was just a way to ‘ bury bad news’ in view of the recent Cummings evidence, the corruption over awarding NHS contracts during Covid and of course the vast amount spent on the Downing Street flat ( now probably repaid but under duress I’m sure ! )
Hope that’s not enough to sue me, but that’ll just make more work for the lawyers !!

Apparently if you are a Catholic (didn’t know Boris was) but previously married otherwise than in a Catholic Church the Catholic religion considers you weren’t married at all so you can remarry in a Catholic Church, no problem ! How very convenient!

Beanie654321 says it all as far as I am concerned.

Have no respect for the man at all . I wonder what his existing children think of him - especially those he does not apparently choose to acknowledge.

Congratulations not in order.

Well, I for one, wish them the very best of luck. As a person who has been married 3 times, I know how easy it is to make mistakes when you are younger but learn from them so that your 3rd marriage is actually a success. Reading all the comments on here make me think that instead of feeling very happy that I have actually managed to make a success of a relationship, I should hang my head in shame as I married my third husband in white, in a church and my DH was an adulterous divorcee too.
Most of the people who came up against church rules which precluded divorcees getting their vows heard in church, experienced this many years ago when things were very different. The age when pregnant unmarried mothers were forced to give up their babies for adoption. The fact that society has changed enormously, allows Boris and the rest of society to marry in church, catholic or not, so the rules have not been changed for him. The only difference for most of us is if your Parish Priest chooses not to allow this to happen because they still hold a lot of the power over these matters.
If you read about the childhood of the Johnson children, there are lots of red flags about their development. They moved home a lot, they were largely brought up by au pairs, pushed to be high achievers and experienced parental depression. Boris himself suffered with deafness and had several operations which in the days he had his treatments would have likely left him without a parental presence as that was quite acceptable then. If you read the statistical evidence about Boarding School children, forces children who move around a lot and children from families who haven't been brought up with a strong parental bond (particularly with their mothers) divorce and difficulty with relationships is much higher than those with stable childhoods.
Whilst it doesn't excuse his behaviour within his previous relationships, it might explain it and surely we can have some compassion on what is supposed to be a happy occasion for the couple. Maybe Carrie will be the one who can help him with a successful relationship. After all, we only have the Media and a poisonous little toad's view of their relationship so we all know how reliable that is.

Can't see why anyone would get their knickets in a twist over this news as it doesn't affect any of us. Once upon a time a divorcee wouldn't get married with all the pomp and circumstance that Meghan did - white dresses were supposed to indicate purity!! Multiple pairings seem to be the dine thing - wonder what will happen when partnerships occur between unknowing brothers and sisters etc??!!

I am disgusted by his behaviour, philandering, lying, lack of decency towards his second wife plus children! Does Carrie realise she will be looking after her grandad in the future? The age gap is huge! They do not deserve my congratulations !!!

Pregnancy, engagement, rescue dog, baby, Covid, marriage- all at times when there are questions.

I bet Carrie organised it all and he just had to turn up

Congratulations Boris and Carrie I loved her dress.
He didn't tell any of his cabinet and guess what the press didn't know either until afterwards. He really can't trust them which is sad