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National anthem for England?

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Yammy Thu 08-Jul-21 12:17:27

On reading the posts about the football and the Danish children singing their national anthem and comments about anthems. It does seem odd that England has not got one truly their own, just lots of regional ones. This topic raises its head every now and again.
What do people think would be an appropriate song for England?

grannyrebel7 Sun 11-Jul-21 19:23:54

We've got our own song Alegrias1 smile

Alegrias1 Sun 11-Jul-21 19:19:09

grannyrebel7

What's wrong with God Save the Queen? I love it, gives me tingles even though I'm Welsh. I hate all this Welsh people & Scottish people not liking England. I think we should all say we're British and stick with God Save the Queen.

If you're singing as British person, sing God Save the Queen. At the Olympics, for instance. Scots will join in enthusiastically.

If you're singing as an English person, at the Commonwealth Games or Euros for instance, find your own song. We've got ours.

Excuse me while I pop downstairs and tell my England-born husband that I don't like him, the last 45 years have all been a mistake.

angry

Blinko Sun 11-Jul-21 19:13:13

Looks like Land of Hope and Glory has fallen off the radar then. I do like Flower of Scotland, I think it's a wonderful tune. Powerful lyrics too, if you're Scottish. I had hoped that the Italian anthem of the day might be Va Pensiero, even though it's not the official national anthem.

Yammy Sun 11-Jul-21 18:56:17

trisher

Isn't there "There'll always be an England"? or "Rose of England"
How many England songs do we need?

Just the one that all the country agrees on instead of "God save the Queen", which I agree is a durge and not one that is used at other times for the whole of the U.K. like the above.

grannyrebel7 Fri 09-Jul-21 18:19:52

What's wrong with God Save the Queen? I love it, gives me tingles even though I'm Welsh. I hate all this Welsh people & Scottish people not liking England. I think we should all say we're British and stick with God Save the Queen.

Calendargirl Fri 09-Jul-21 17:40:00

Katie59

The modern anthem I do like is “Advance Australia Fair”
Even though it was written 150 yrs ago, it just seems right for today.

My Australian son-in-law dislikes “Advance Australia Fair”.

I think “I Am, You Are, We Are Australian” sung by The Seekers, would be a great Aussie National Anthem.

merlotgran Fri 09-Jul-21 17:36:40

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Chewbacca Fri 09-Jul-21 17:31:27

I'd prefer The Funky Gibbon by the Goodies myself.

dolphindaisy Fri 09-Jul-21 17:25:13

No contest - the next national anthem should be The Blaydon Races

AGAA4 Fri 09-Jul-21 17:06:26

Yes. There'll always be an England would be a good song/anthem but just the first few verses and miss out the Empire bit.

trisher Fri 09-Jul-21 16:35:02

Isn't there "There'll always be an England"? or "Rose of England"
How many England songs do we need?

sodapop Fri 09-Jul-21 16:28:19

Oh please not Sweet Caroline. It's been done to death. My daughter hates it, no prizes for guessing her name.

Mamardoit Fri 09-Jul-21 16:26:14

The New Zealand anthem is a good one. Lots of verses but really nice words.

The Welsh have one of the best.

SueDonim Fri 09-Jul-21 15:06:27

Sweet Caroline. For every country in the world. Everyone knows it, it’s easy to sing/hum along to and it cheers everyone up. grin

Katie59 Fri 09-Jul-21 15:03:25

The modern anthem I do like is “Advance Australia Fair”
Even though it was written 150 yrs ago, it just seems right for today.

Nannarose Thu 08-Jul-21 22:03:35

I once heard Noel Gallaher on the radio talking about the difficulty of writing songs to be sung by large crowds.
When a lot of people are out of tune and have no sense of timing (guilty!) then anything lively becomes a mess.
Anything easy to sing, in terms of both tune & timing, is likely to become dirge-like.

I have once heard The Red Flag sung to the tune it was written for: The White Cockade and it sounded lovely compared to its usual tune (O Xmas Tree) but I could see you couldn't get a packed hall singing it (insert joke here)

vegansrock Thu 08-Jul-21 21:32:57

Italy have got a good national anthem. Ours is a dirge by comparison.

Boz Thu 08-Jul-21 21:11:57

I do not associate IVtTMC with terrorism but take the point. It can be seen as extreme. Also, apologise for ignorance re; Holst.

Anannymous Thu 08-Jul-21 20:23:50

I second Ralph Mctells England. Lovely song

valdali Thu 08-Jul-21 20:23:45

Jerusalem for me, the melody is so uplifting & stirring (if difficult for the vocally challenged like me). The Marseillaise is a wonderful national anthem for France, yes OK it glorifies the thought of foreign blood overflowing in the fields, it was written in a more violent agewink but the tune is just the job.

Yammy Thu 08-Jul-21 20:09:29

I haven't got one myself. "Abide with me," along with" Rock of Ages," always reminds me of funerals brought up a strict Methodist it was always sung at them.
Though coming from Rugby League country they did and I think still do, sing it at Rugby League finals. Maybe another Methodist influence.

PippaZ Thu 08-Jul-21 14:42:32

Nannarose Thu 08-Jul-21 13:34:07
For me, Maggie Holland's Place Called England (sung here by the Young 'Uns) is wonderful:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=EtPndIJ2Jqk

Brilliant choice. It would have my vote.

MiniMoon Thu 08-Jul-21 14:34:59

When I was at school we sang John of Gaunt's speech from Richard II, "This royal throne of Kings, this sceptre Isle. I always thought it would nake a good anthem for England.

Mamardoit Thu 08-Jul-21 14:34:31

The Reg Meuross song would need some modifying to be used has a national anthem! I agree with the bit about the BBC and the royals but lots wouldn't.

Chewbacca Thu 08-Jul-21 14:30:25

geekesse @ 13.18

PMSL grin