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National anthem for England?

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Mamardoit Thu 08-Jul-21 14:26:12

Nannarose

For me, Maggie Holland's Place Called England (sung here by the Young 'Uns) is wonderful:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=EtPndIJ2Jqk

And I think it could be adapted to an 'anthem', but am afraid it might not get much support.
Same goes for Billy Bragg's adaptation of This Land is Your Land, which would need more adapting as it's 'from the Coast of Cornwall to the Scottish Highlands'.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjJLDjjYXMM

Given our amazing songwriters, I would have thought we could have got something together by now.
However, given the English character, I suspect we'd rather sing a gospel spiritual or a Neil Diamond song.

And although it is so specific to football, I do like 3 Lions, but then I always think of Billy Bragg's line:
the 3 lions on the English shirt, they never sprung from English dirt; those lions are half-English and I'm half-English too.

I also hope that we will hear Abide With Me on Sunday, a hymn that moves this atheist, and is now one of the few traditional hymns that a majority of people know.

I think A Place Called England is lovely. Ralph McTell wrote one called England which has nice words but lacks the catchy tune which I think is needed.

England Green and England Grey is also good. By Reg someone. I can't remember his second name.

Lucca Thu 08-Jul-21 14:03:24

I can’t bear Abide with me. So gloomy. Brings back memories of Sunday evening service at boarding school? often alternated with Now the day is over …even worse !

MawBe Thu 08-Jul-21 13:52:52

Boz

I have always loved the following;

I vow to thee my country, all earthly things above,
Entire and whole and perfect, the service of my love.
The love that asks no question, the love that stands the test,
That lays upon the altar the dearest and the best.
The love that never falters, the love that pays the price.

Sung to Holst's Planets Suite. So not really English but beautiful song.

Why is it not English?
Holst was born in Cheltenham in I think 1874 and lived and worked in England all his life.

Nannarose Thu 08-Jul-21 13:34:07

For me, Maggie Holland's Place Called England (sung here by the Young 'Uns) is wonderful:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=EtPndIJ2Jqk

And I think it could be adapted to an 'anthem', but am afraid it might not get much support.
Same goes for Billy Bragg's adaptation of This Land is Your Land, which would need more adapting as it's 'from the Coast of Cornwall to the Scottish Highlands'.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjJLDjjYXMM

Given our amazing songwriters, I would have thought we could have got something together by now.
However, given the English character, I suspect we'd rather sing a gospel spiritual or a Neil Diamond song.

And although it is so specific to football, I do like 3 Lions, but then I always think of Billy Bragg's line:
the 3 lions on the English shirt, they never sprung from English dirt; those lions are half-English and I'm half-English too.

I also hope that we will hear Abide With Me on Sunday, a hymn that moves this atheist, and is now one of the few traditional hymns that a majority of people know.

geekesse Thu 08-Jul-21 13:18:53

Boz

I have always loved the following;

I vow to thee my country, all earthly things above,
Entire and whole and perfect, the service of my love.
The love that asks no question, the love that stands the test,
That lays upon the altar the dearest and the best.
The love that never falters, the love that pays the price.

Sung to Holst's Planets Suite. So not really English but beautiful song.

Allegiance which is unquestioning and willing to sacrifice anyone is dangerous fanaticism. I love Holst’s tune and the second verse is truly lovely, but the first verse is a nationalist terrorist’s charter

Boz Thu 08-Jul-21 12:40:02

I have always loved the following;

I vow to thee my country, all earthly things above,
Entire and whole and perfect, the service of my love.
The love that asks no question, the love that stands the test,
That lays upon the altar the dearest and the best.
The love that never falters, the love that pays the price.

Sung to Holst's Planets Suite. So not really English but beautiful song.

Katie59 Thu 08-Jul-21 12:33:13

Jerusalem traditionally has been the “English” anthem, for England’s green and pleasant land, personally I dont think it’s a great choice. Nor do I think “God save the Queen” is appropriate in this day and age, but I will continue to sing it until it’s replaced with something more modern.

Yammy Thu 08-Jul-21 12:27:42

Yes I mean songs sorry.

Anniebach Thu 08-Jul-21 12:20:27

What are England’s regional anthems, or do you mean songs ?

Yammy Thu 08-Jul-21 12:17:27

On reading the posts about the football and the Danish children singing their national anthem and comments about anthems. It does seem odd that England has not got one truly their own, just lots of regional ones. This topic raises its head every now and again.
What do people think would be an appropriate song for England?