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FannyCornforth Fri 09-Jul-21 09:12:05

Welcome to Thread II!

We companionably mused, gossiped and waffled about Royalty, and vaguely related things for 1000 posts!

Starting with names; and ending on them them…
and in between covered everything from Adam Faith to Scottish Country Dancing!

So, as before, God Bless this Ship and All who Sail in her! ??

Ellianne Sun 18-Jul-21 22:53:29

Sorry your thread appears to have disintegrated a bit Fanny, but back to the C & D programme you suggested, there was a brief interview with a Spencer cousin of Diana's. He explained that the Spencer family is actually more aristocratic than the royals and that was a big reason why she was the perfect choice for Charles. She wasn't attracted by his wealth or fame, but was truly in love with him.
I also didn't realise Charles had had a couple of girls reject his proposals prior to Diana, the same as Harry before Meghan.

maddyone Sun 18-Jul-21 22:53:28

I neither hate nor have damned Meghan, Harry, or Diana. Nor do I worship them. So please do not accuse me of such. I simply stated that I thought the interview was spiteful. I not going to change my mind on that and suddenly decide it was loveliest and kindest thing to do because in my opinion it wasn’t. I’m not filled with glee, nor do I think I have trashed any of them. I think the interview was ill advised to be honest, but the RF will get over it. Like they got over Mrs Simpson.

Anniebach Sun 18-Jul-21 22:45:04

The glee some leap into these threads to mock other posters

Lucca Sun 18-Jul-21 22:40:03

Guess I’ll be joining Alegrias and Trisher’ s secret society ie being in a minority in that not liking the wholesale damning of Meghan Harry and Diana apparently makes us Meghan fans and Diana worshippers. I’m neither as I’ve said many times but it’s fallen on deaf ears. I think they all make/have made mistakes as have we all but don’t merit all this nastiness.

The glee with which some leap into these threads to trash those three is a bit nauseating to be honest.

Lucca Sun 18-Jul-21 22:32:01

“ Megan had her own interests,writing on bananas to abused women, writing a cookery book.”

Oh for goodness sake. Why so catty ? That is not all Meghan has done (why don’t you persist on spelling her name differently? Are you making a point ?)

Lucca Sun 18-Jul-21 22:26:25

eazybee

*And let's not forget she was an actress so she's used to playing a part.*
You said it, Lucca. Meghan has dissembled, been economical with the truth and told outright lies, thus losing all credibility. She is permanently playing a part, that of being a victim.
If you want an example of someone who recognises the 'professional necessity for looking OK' you have HRH the Queen, a woman who has carried on through crisis after crisis but who would never, ever discuss her feelings in public.

Er… No I didn’t say that !

maddyone Sun 18-Jul-21 22:22:42

I don’t hate Meghan. Why would I? I don’t know her. But the interview she gave was just a horrid thing to do. I maintain it was spiteful. She knew the whole world would see it, and she knew the RF couldn’t answer back. There really are no winners in a situation like this, least of all the children, who effectively only have one grandparent. I hope H&M bring the children over to see their other grandparents and great grandparent, and all their cousins and aunt and uncle.

trisher Sun 18-Jul-21 22:08:03

Thanks Alegrias1 I look forward to our first secret meeting! I've rolled my trouser leg up already.

Can calling someone a 1950s housewife really be considered an insult if you think that is a role women should aspire to Annie?

Anniebach Sun 18-Jul-21 21:14:17

trisher you can accept what the Sussexes did, I cannot, I do not worship the R.F. I am certainly not a Diana devotee.

I think your mocking of 1950’s women was an insult to so many strong women, we have different views on what makes a
strong woman, for you it’s a woman who is happy to move on
to get what she wants and bugger who she hurts doing so or who she uses.

Alegrias1 Sun 18-Jul-21 19:31:20

There's a secret society of us Meghan Maniacs trisher, I'll send you the link.

The only qualification for entry to the society is that you don't think Meghan is evil to the core. For an extra small donation you can join the Diana Devotees at the same time.

We have a secret handshake and everything.

trisher Sun 18-Jul-21 19:28:51

Anniebach

trisher explains your loyal support for Meg

It isn't support it's simply taking an unemotional and non-judgemental view. For some reason I don't regard MM as an evil woman sent to steal our prince. I can't see that she's committed any major sins. She married into a family, she didn't like it. They left. They did an interview about what happened.
I certainly don't adore the RF the way some do
As for justice, there's none to be found on GN especially for women who dare to do as they want.

eazybee Sun 18-Jul-21 19:02:51

And your idea of justice.
Explains a lot.

Anniebach Sun 18-Jul-21 18:42:51

trisher explains your loyal support for Meg

trisher Sun 18-Jul-21 18:05:42

As the money isn't earned by the RF I don't care who gets it. The RF have mistreated and exploited so many people perhaps it's time someone treated them badly.
As for a "normal" family or even a "high profile" family, can they be both?

eazybee Sun 18-Jul-21 17:14:14

Oh come on many much worse things are produced by the media

Far worse things may be produced by the media, but they are not members of the family they are attempting to trash so publicly. This same family is the source of a considerable amount of money which enables Meghan's very comfortable lifestyle, and the connection she so ruthlessly exploits to gain (I refuse to say earn) yet more money.

Mollygo Sun 18-Jul-21 16:53:31

Maddyone it seemed spiteful and nasty to me but perhaps that’s her normal behaviour, in which case we shouldn’t criticise.

maddyone Sun 18-Jul-21 16:48:19

What is a normal family trisher? Most families are dysfunctional in some way or other. And I do believe that interview was an appalling thing to do. It was spiteful and nasty. Perhaps you think that’s okay, but I don’t.

trisher Sun 18-Jul-21 16:34:52

Oh come on many much worse things are produced by the media. The RF has always been dysfunctional and pretended they weren't. I'm not emotionally involved in this like some seem to be.

maddyone Sun 18-Jul-21 16:18:36

here’s another stick to beat H&M with…..
Do you honestly believe that the interview was the right thing to do? I think it was appalling, and just not what is done in any family, let alone such a high profile family. Meghan was being spiteful, and that is clear to see. It’s not about another stick to beat them with, it’s about recognition of appalling behaviour.

trisher Sun 18-Jul-21 16:08:34

I'm of the opinion if you sincerely believe the advice you give someone you shouldn't be upset when they tell others about it. Anyway does anyone know that William minded, or is it just the "here's another stick to beat H&M with" crew on GN?

Ellianne Sun 18-Jul-21 15:55:13

I come back to the point that taking marital advice from a sibling is not the issue. Telling the world all about his brother's "interference' is.

Mollygo Sun 18-Jul-21 14:01:39

I wouldn’t take marital advice from any of my siblings, nor would I offer it.
I’m also glad my ‘friends’ don’t pass on their opinions of me in the media.

Galaxy Sun 18-Jul-21 13:55:41

There is absolutely no way on earth I would take marital advice from mysibling, and I am sure he feels the same. I think ignoring that advice is fairly standard behaviour to be honest.

Sparklefizz Sun 18-Jul-21 13:51:22

trisher Not sure if your last post is addressed to me, but anyway .... I am using my common sense.

Maybe Harry "didn't notice what was happening" as you say, although we know from Meghan herself that she told him.

We also know that Harry has been described by Army colleagues and friends as "stubborn" and also as "fiery".

Harry was hardly a "little brother" but a man in his 30s who could surely accept that this was good advice coming from a family member who loved him and had always had his best interests at heart. If William's concern did indeed make "Harry more determined", as you say, I think that shows a tremendous immaturity on Harry's part.

trisher Sun 18-Jul-21 13:30:14

So you believe the RF who have a track record of not looking after women? I would imagine as always the truth lies somewhere in the middle.
Harry probably thought he'd married a strong woman who would cope and didn't notice what was happening.
Perhaps William should have kept out of it. Little brothers hate being told what to do by older brothers, so it might have made Harry more determined.