Royal Thread the Second- Tiaras Optional! ?

The Queen hasn’t defended him, I can’t recall her ever speaking of family troubles.

Also we have no idea what his daughters really think. I would think it would be almost impossible for them to process that.

I expect HM is like most mums. We almost always defend our children even when we might be entertaining less complimentary thoughts.

Anniebach

All the ‘ Fergie is with him because of the latest reports’

She has been living with him in Royal Lodge for years

But she couldn’t always go to Balmoral with him. Philip Wouldn’t allow it when he was there!

All the ‘ Fergie is with him because of the latest reports’

She has been living with him in Royal Lodge for years

Yes, fair point Annie!
Thinking aloud again, as it were. Daft comment alert needed!

Perfectly natural for the Queen to ‘be fond’ of her son surely
Fanny

I wonder why HM was allegedly so fond of him?
And Sarah and their daughters?
Despite him being an absolute arse, the significant women in his life are very loyal. Interesting (well, to me anyway…)

He has always seemed so arrogant

Here’s a marvellous snippette from ‘…And What Do You Do?’ (I’m listening to it at the moment, in the background)

In 2016 Andrew was driving in one of their estates (I’m being vague - but it’s all documented) and came across some security gates which were on the blink and wouldn’t open. So instead of making a tiny detour, he rammed the gates with his Range Rover.
Criminal damage, all paid for by the public.
The estate ranger was quoted in the press saying that it was not unusual behaviour, which isn’t exactly difficult to believe.

I understand

No way Fanny it caused much upset to many I know, it
went too far in that episode, you enjoy it .

Wonder if I hold a record for my viewing of Netflix, one hour

Oh Annie
I know that you don’t like the Crown for very valid reasons, but some of it (in particular the first and second series) are marvellous.
I don’t think that (the first two series) are anything but sympathetic to HM, and indeed the rest of ‘em.
I encourage you to have a little peep (from behind the sofa perhaps, with missiles to chuck at the screen).
The one about Graham Sutherland painting Churchill’s portrait was my favourite (and it only featured the RF in passing!)
I’m not really enjoying the later series’.
Apologies if I’m repeating myself btw!

Its not always sarcastic, Annie, sometimes its very straightforward.

If any of us had made any comment criticising the Queen in any way, I expect that you or another ardent Royalist would have been on us straight away with a sarcastic or barbed comment. But a snide remark about her sexual past is to be considered a "joke".

Alegrias1. Why the constant sarcasm to so many of my posts ?
is there a need to put me down, if so , what is that need ?

Right then, so it's OK to joke now that the Queen was an unfaithful wife and has lied to the UK population for more than half a century.

OK, got it.

(Don't believe it for a minute, mind you)

Sparklefizz sorry i posted about it now, I was a joke.

Lord Porchester was the Queens racing manager, they had been friends from childhood,

I don’t watch the ghastly The Crown so didn’t know there had been any reference to him for years. But if it has been in
The Crown what better assurance that it was a lie

Porchey! That’s his name. Lord Porchester.
I’ve just googled images, and there is a resemblance!

Alegrias but if any family could get with it, it would be them!

So do I, but they were very close.
It’s a very touching episode.
Fact and fiction are definitely blurred. There has been so much gossip etc under the bridge about everything, I doubt if we shall ever know the truth about very much.

FannyCornforth

*Sparklefizz*I think that Annie might be referring to HM’s horse trainer, the Earl of Carnarvon.
There’s a great episode of The Crown about their friendship.
(Your man who wrote The Battle of the Brothers was one of the advisers for The Crown).

Thanks Fanny.
I haven't reached any part of Lacey's book where that's mentioned, and frankly I find it very hard to believe.

We're often told that the Queen is above reproach in all things. Can't be criticised. Does her duty, God bless her.

But we are allowed to think she had an affair outside of marriage and passed off the child of that affair as her husband's for 60 years?

Really?

SparklefizzI think that Annie might be referring to HM’s horse trainer, the Earl of Carnarvon.
There’s a great episode of The Crown about their friendship.
(Your man who wrote The Battle of the Brothers was one of the advisers for The Crown).

Annie You posted this earlier :
^Perhaps the claim that Andrew is her favourite comes from the whispers of - who his father really is ! ! ! !

Please clarify - who were you talking about.

Oh deary me
I’d forgotten that David Yelland edited The Sun. He must have had a lot of clearing up to do after that pair of charmers.