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Doodle Wed 11-Aug-21 15:55:20

I read in the news paper this morning that the smiley face emoji can be seen as patronising or passive aggressive by teenagers and people in their twenties.
Older people use the emojis for what they appear to show while the younger generation use it sarcastically.
It also seems that the ? emoji is used by those over 30 while it has been replaced for the younger generation by the skull and crossbones ☠️ Meaning, I’m laughing so hard I’m dying.
Using full stops in messages is seen as abrupt or passive aggressive too.
As a great user of ……….… and smiley faces, I wish to apologise now to all I may have offended ? …….oops done it again ?

Aepgirl Fri 13-Aug-21 08:05:07

What is it with ‘not allowed’ or ‘offensive’ these? days. I’m sick of being told ‘you can’t say that any more’, or ‘that isn’t acceptable now’.

Saetana Fri 13-Aug-21 07:57:38

Frankly I do not care if someone misunderstands my emojis - I am not here to pander to the younger generation, if they are so tone deaf then....

Lilyflower Fri 13-Aug-21 05:18:31

Perfect grammar and punctuation are a silent, social marker and it is a sign of how the middle class code is being diluted that new social groups are becoming, let us say tactfully, ‘democratised’, if they are arguing that inaccuracy of expression is to be preferred over a command of the language.

My adult children speak and write accurate Standard English as they were taught to do.

Doodle Thu 12-Aug-21 20:37:18

Being of an innocent nature, I had no idea why anyone would be offended by an aubergine emoji or actually under what circumstances one might use it. I looked it up on Google blush ……the youth of today .

Kim19 Thu 12-Aug-21 19:06:20

Thank you Elegran. I would never have worked that one out!

Janetashbolt Thu 12-Aug-21 19:00:55

I use proper punctuation, full stops included and can't stand emojis so never use them so I'm only half PA.

GreenGran78 Thu 12-Aug-21 18:52:10

I shall continue to use correct grammar and punctuation in my messages, and if anyone doesn’t like it, or the emojis I use....too bad! I can’t keep up with the constant changes, especially all the politically correct rubbish. I see people being criticised in the press, or social media, for saying something that seems perfectly innocuous to me. The world is going mad!
I WAS amused, though, by the story of someone seeing their parent typing an email sending sympathy about someone who had died, and ending the message with LOL. On expressing their horror, it turned out that they thought that it stood for ‘lots of love!’

Rosina Thu 12-Aug-21 18:26:54

I am becoming firmly convinced that there is a movement to undermine every word we utter, every thought in our heads, every move we make, until we are all standing, petrified, unable to function. I am utterly sick of reading silly news about cancelling, hurt feelings, perceived insults, apologies being made by grovelling authors for perfectly reasonable text in their books - it is just too much, and I do wonder who generates this absolute nonsense, who encourages it - and why.

Edith81 Thu 12-Aug-21 18:26:50

I have to say that one of the most irritating things for me is bad grammar and spelling. What!! No full stops?? When I text,it’s the same as writing a letter,and I ask my GC to do the same, which they do.

4allweknow Thu 12-Aug-21 18:10:22

Those who make up the nonsensical meanings of the emojs totally misconstrueing the pictorial design are showing how stupid they are. If they saw a picture showing a plate with say meat, potatoes and veg would they construe that not to be food but excrement; a glass of beer as being urine or perhaps an addiction substance. Ignore the idiots and continue using emojs as they had been intended.

TrendyNannie6 Thu 12-Aug-21 18:08:45

So grammar and punctuation is wrong now! Oh dearie me. I will continue to do what I’ve always done, that’s the rebel in me. Shock Horror! ???

Harris27 Thu 12-Aug-21 17:57:50

Hilarious!?

Nannagarra Thu 12-Aug-21 17:51:42

I totally agree with Chewbacca. Without intending to, I’m probably causing offence and not even realising what I’ve done. I beg your pardon.
Eats Shoots And Leaves, eh?
Or old dog, new tricks?

win Thu 12-Aug-21 17:25:41

Brilliant thank you for that list, I never know what the mean either.

Pompeychic Thu 12-Aug-21 17:18:18

Ailidh I too have benefitted from a Scots education some 60 years ago. I am a bit of a grammar pedant too - writing has to be grammatically correct or it risks different interpretations. I use emojis but only a few that I understand and if I want to be ironic I will say so . Not likely to be texting teens now anyway as they don’t speak English!!?

toscalily Thu 12-Aug-21 16:59:13

Now I know why ( Utility) companies don't answer when we phone, they just consider us rude! and if we send them an email with a complaint but with correct grammar & full stops we are being passive aggressive. confused

nipsmum Thu 12-Aug-21 16:58:58

I don't use emojies. Words are just as good.

BazingaGranny Thu 12-Aug-21 16:56:16

I was mortified a few years ago to discover the LoL didn’t mean, as I had thought, ‘Lots of Love’, but ‘Laugh out Loud’! Apparently it’s a common mistake!

I won’t be sending any ‘aubergines’ whatever they mean, although I think I get the gist! ?

effalump Thu 12-Aug-21 16:34:16

I don't know what half of the emojis mean. I just use them if I like the look of them so no doubt I am offending a lot of people. grin

Lincslass Thu 12-Aug-21 16:23:57

Emoji, can take them or leave them. Poor darlings, many of whom can’t even spell, or have been taught to, or can’t even string a proper sentence together, complaining about emojis and the full stop. DLHU.

Mollygo Thu 12-Aug-21 16:20:25

Keep using ? Don’t be ?. By the time we’ve learnt the new rule, the old one will be back. Not using full stops -some people never learnt how in the first place, so let them have their happy time. ???

Tizliz Thu 12-Aug-21 16:18:15

Aldom

What I find rude and annoying regarding the phone is when I am being served in a shop or similar face to face situation and the business phone rings. What does the assistant do? Stops serving me to take the phone call. Why oh why does the phone call take precedence over the customer who took the trouble to travel to the business venue???

I have just changed pharmacy because of this. the assistant walked away right in the middle of serving me and didn’t come back leaving her junior to try and deal with my problem that she had no knowledge of.

GrammarGrandma Thu 12-Aug-21 16:17:46

It would never occur to me to use an emoji. If they are supposed to add nuance to a short message, today's story shows that they have completely failed. So why not go back to writing what you want to in the first place?

welbeck Thu 12-Aug-21 15:52:48

my last comment in response to Lillian40.

welbeck Thu 12-Aug-21 15:51:56

maybe because it is not just the language of the yoof.
text and email is now standard business communication.
i would guess that most business is conducted this way, rather than by formal written letters, or snail mail.
so it has become mainstream, the dominant cultural norm.