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Poor baby - run home to mummy!

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Newatthis Mon 23-Aug-21 12:56:15

So, not only had Prince Andrew run home to mummy, The Queen has let it be known to the regiment that she wants the Duke of York to remain as colonel, and the feeling is that nobody wants to do anything that could cause upset to the colonel-in-chief.'
What about those who have been hurt by this so far by these allegations...... Diddums - poor Andrew, I wonder if The Queen spoon feeds him his breakfast and wipes his botty for him also!

www.itv.com/news/2021-08-22/queen-wants-duke-of-york-to-keep-honorary-military-role

Germanshepherdsmum Thu 02-Sept-21 14:13:10

Andrew will have a good legal team and follow their advice. You don’t keep a dog and bark yourself. The mocking of a 95 year old widow is distasteful and totally unnecessary. This affair isn’t damaging to the RF, only to one member of it if he is guilty of any offence - as to which no-one on GN has any proof. They merely speculate.

Anniebach Thu 02-Sept-21 14:00:03

I have heard / read about Ms Maxwell and her childhood but
she is wealthy so impossible for her to be a damaged woman,

Anniebach Thu 02-Sept-21 13:57:04

Petera thank you. Perhaps some republicans would hold back
on their joy that a member of the royal family is involved.

The mocking of the Queen, his mother, is this fair, some think
She should do something, God knows what they expect her to
do, stand at the gates of Buck house and be filmed pointing a
finger to the exist as he walks through it carrying a suitcase.

Petera Thu 02-Sept-21 13:05:39

Anniebach "If the girls are underage then a pervert and a criminal as all the men who attend, no matter their wealth or political career ."

Thank you Anniebach, I can't but agree (but might add "men or women" - particularly in this case) and respect that opinion.

You have been very clear, but perhaps now some of the other royal supporters on the thread can take the chance to be equally clear?

nanna8 Thu 02-Sept-21 12:13:45

Why would a very elderly woman do anything? She’s not the one who has to answer here. Her son is no doubt thinking it will all blow over and maybe he is right. That will be what his legal team will have told him, line of least resistance.

Anniebach Thu 02-Sept-21 11:31:46

maddy what can the Queen do ?

Andrew will do as all would do, follow the advice of his legal team.

Epstein was put on suicide watch, then taken off, few days later
he was dead .

maddyone Thu 02-Sept-21 11:26:46

I agree with Annie that all those persons involved should be interviewed/charged if crimes were committed.

maddyone Thu 02-Sept-21 11:24:11

I am puzzled by the lack of response by Prince Andrew and the Queen’s silence on this. I don’t understand how the Queen doesn’t see how damaging this is to the RF and the longer it continues the more damaging it will be.

Anniebach Thu 02-Sept-21 11:22:57

If the girls are underage then a pervert and a criminal as all the
men who attend, no matter their wealth or political career .

I have never defended Andrew but I do believe some are eager
to have him charged because he is a member of the royal family , they show no interest in any one else who was involved .

Petera Thu 02-Sept-21 11:01:42

Anniebach

You didn’t ask that question Petera you were concerned with
wealth and fame.

Just so that we don't get down the rabbit hole of arguing by misunderstanding common English usage, let me just accept your point and ask you your own question:

"what sort of person attends parties with teenage runaway girls?"

Alegrias1 Thu 02-Sept-21 10:38:05

Missing the point of Petera's post quite spectacularly there Anniebach,

Anniebach Thu 02-Sept-21 10:22:58

You didn’t ask that question Petera you were concerned with
wealth and fame.

Petera Thu 02-Sept-21 09:51:47

Anniebach

Petera I don’t want to see Andrew taking part in any official role. His tv interview was a disgrace.

Surely your question should be ‘what sort of person attends parties with teenage runaway girls’

To which your answer should be "a deeply creepy one"

Franbern Thu 02-Sept-21 09:45:19

silverdragon

The young woman that PA is supposed to have assaulted - what I want to know is why & how on earth did she get involved with Epstein & Maxwell in the first place, kept being in their circle, and WHERE were her parents whilst all this was going on?

Obviously, it is the victims who are to blame!!!

Parsley3 Thu 02-Sept-21 09:44:38

Does it matter how many other people are involved?What difference does that make to Andrew's part in it all?

Anniebach Thu 02-Sept-21 09:32:37

So all the others who attended those parties have come forward and spoken of this ?

Why isn’t Virginia Giuffre suing Clinton and Andrew ?

Alegrias1 Thu 02-Sept-21 09:16:16

what sort of person attends parties with teenage runaway girls...

..and then hides in his mum's house(s) to avoid the authorities, with his mum's collusion?

Anniebach Thu 02-Sept-21 09:14:06

Petera I don’t want to see Andrew taking part in any official role. His tv interview was a disgrace.

Surely your question should be ‘what sort of person attends parties with teenage runaway girls’

eazybee Thu 02-Sept-21 09:00:51

Prince Andrew is being castigated in this country, rightly in my opinion, for his continuing friendship with Epstein afterhis conviction and sentence.

Casdon Thu 02-Sept-21 08:29:05

Yes Grany, what I want to see is the evidence that security guards stopped multiple attempts to hand the document to Prince Andrew? I’m not defending his actions in any way, I just prefer accuracy in reporting situations to rumour, and I can’t find any credible sources so far.

Grany Thu 02-Sept-21 08:01:04

Prosecutors last year sent the British government a formal request, known as a mutual legal assistance treaty (MLAT) submission, asking for access to the prince so they could talk to him. Andrew still hasn’t cooperated.

Anniebach Thu 02-Sept-21 07:49:53

Good grief trisher you are quoting the Daily Mail , ?

Petera Thu 02-Sept-21 07:49:46

I really fail to understand the attitudes taken by Royal Family supporters here.

If I supported them – and I readily admit that I don’t – I would be mortified by what’s going on and quite deeply angry with Prince Andrew for bring them into disrepute.

Even if he did not sexually abuse a child there are still several factors that are beyond doubt.

He openly consorted with known child sex offenders.

He invited one of the to his daughter’s 18th birthday party (just say that slowly to yourself – his daughter's 18th birthday party) a month after they had been charged with solicitation.

He attended parties on a private island, know to locals as” paedophile island”.

He made a transatlantic trip and stayed at the house of a convicted sex offender for three days because, he said, “it was a convenient place to stay”.

He claimed to have offered himself as a witness to be refused by the US Department of Justice which they – the US government, not the lawyers, the government – denied with the words “…falsely portray himself as … willing to cooperate”.

And even if you now come back with the argument – “well we don’t know that he knew what he was doing” (which shows a staggering lack of awareness both on his part and of the staff I assume we pay to ensure he knows these things) just ask: what sort of deeply creepy rich and famous person attends parties with teenage runaway girls?

nanna8 Thu 02-Sept-21 02:09:30

What hope has Virginia Guiffre got against all that man’s wealth and power? She is a brave woman, hope she doesn’t meet with an ‘accident’!

Casdon Wed 01-Sept-21 23:23:18

I was looking for a reliable source trisher, not the Daily Mail. I couldn’t find one, although my google skills are actually quite good. If you can find it please post, as I’m sure any decent source would explain the legalities, which is the most important element.