Poor baby - run home to mummy!

Allsorts

I don’t read anything about him anymore. Sure the courts will sort it now. The Queen, has had more than her fare share of problems with some of her children, she deals with them her way.

That's great. Heaven forbid they should be subjected to the same laws and justice system as the rest of us. Isn't that the same as running back to mummy though??

I don’t read anything about him anymore. Sure the courts will sort it now. The Queen, has had more than her fare share of problems with some of her children, she deals with them her way.

Welshwife

If there was a President of some sort they would presumably be for a fixed term - besides the running costs of State buildings - there is no guarantee that the person would be a good leader or not become a dictator as in a number of countries round the world.
People visit U.K. because they want to see the Queen etc and the pageantry that exists for some occasions. Britain would lose so much again. I know there are republicans and they will never change their minds and I have thought about it all and came to the conclusion that things are probably best left as they are.
If Charles becomes King he is likely to do environmentally good things and William is highly likely to be a moderniser. They do have their own sources of income and William is set to take over the Duchy estates.
I find having one regular election less with the years of speculation and electioneering and probably a very rich person winning is a big bonus - at least we know where we stand!

A British president would have rules with the job be above politics, that's fair, the queen and Charles are not above politics they can veto legislation and lobby ministers. A president would not have lots of State homes unlike RF A president would have one official residence and an office..
RF have no impact on tourism See Visit Britain. Tourists come here for many reasons. Charles went to a climate conference by jet causing damage to environment

Yes bet William can't wait to get hands on Duchy and over £20 million which should go to the treasury.

The Windsors are getting bigger extended families. We just need one Head of State a president Very clever and accomplished people are presidents and do a good job for their people not like the RF who don't do any good they are only in it for themselves they cost a fortune.

It will be good for Britain to have a democratically Elected Head of State instead of a secretive divisive undemocratic monarchy

Republic have done very well bringing about a debate with billboards around the country It's good to hear that mostly the young want a democratically Elected Head of State Its mainly the much older people who believe the myths of monarchy

Anniebach

Sorry can’t agree Alegrias1 , I really can’t understand why anyone would want to do it

Obvious in relation to halfpint’s comment !

Sorry can’t agree Alegrias1 , I really can’t understand why anyone would want to do it

I know, isn't it amazing Annie! ?

I didn’t know one could search to find out how long a poster had been on this forum, creepy

Well you can't blame a person for getting tired, can you halfpint1? The same old questions, again and again.

My criticism is repetitive because we keep getting asked the same questions. There's only one answer, whether people like it or not. We don't have to keep thinking up novel answers to questions just because people don't like the truth of the ones we give.

A quick search showed you've been on GN longer than me. Maybe we've just been ships that pass in the night before this, who knows?

This thread started with a childish post and hey….. guess what

Thankyou for pointing that out Alegrias , maybe some of us
who haven't been on this forum for as long as others still have something to say , maybe you need new ground then you wouldn't have to read repetitive arguements or maybe that is
why yours are so cynical . I wasn't intending to be 'original'
the anti royalists say the same stuff time and again and
your critism is never original, just repetitive

Well besides not paying corporation tax or capital gains tax the RF manage to dodge inheritance tax as well.. This means that while Mrs Nobody will pay 40% tax on anything over £325,000 she leaves to her family, the RF can will their money to the monarch and pay nothing. So the late Queen mum left £14million in trust to her daughter and paid no tax.
But hey they deserve it

Luckily we have. Royal figurehead and a parliament. That's worked out OK.

halfpint1

I keep saying this, what do you propose in its place?
A President? Take a look around the world and come back
to me.
Be thankfull for what you have anything else could be even more expensive

Many of us have explained this on GN, many, many times. If you really want to know, read some of the many, many royal/republican threads that explain how this works in detail. Its really not an original comeback to ask who we would recommend instead and think you've outwitted the Republicans, we really have thought about this.

As for being thankful for what we have, if that was a good way to run a country we'd still have serfdom.

I am sure that Charles would stand as an independent in such an election. I would give him a vote.

If we were to have a president I am sure it would become about
politics .
The German President was minister of foreign affairs.

Thank goodness there are some good Presidents.
However how much does it cost to elect an American President,
billions and every 4 years, on top of which the last 2 ageing men have'nt turned out too well. Where does the money come from - big business - so who is really running the country and for whose benefit?

If there was a President of some sort they would presumably be for a fixed term - besides the running costs of State buildings - there is no guarantee that the person would be a good leader or not become a dictator as in a number of countries round the world.
People visit U.K. because they want to see the Queen etc and the pageantry that exists for some occasions. Britain would lose so much again. I know there are republicans and they will never change their minds and I have thought about it all and came to the conclusion that things are probably best left as they are.
If Charles becomes King he is likely to do environmentally good things and William is highly likely to be a moderniser. They do have their own sources of income and William is set to take over the Duchy estates.
I find having one regular election less with the years of speculation and electioneering and probably a very rich person winning is a big bonus - at least we know where we stand!

The president of Ireland was leader of the Labour Party

halfpint1

I keep saying this, what do you propose in its place?
A President? Take a look around the world and come back
to me.
Be thankfull for what you have anything else could be even more expensive

You take a look there are presidents that are elected and do a wonderful job. Take the presidents of Ireland or Germany as an example clever accomplished and respected people in their own right. The monarchy is very expensive a president elected to do the job queen can't do would cost a fraction of cost of monarchy There would be a PM too. And a properly written down constitution.

The monarchy is corrupt in public office for private gain. Queen's consent should be scrapped allows her to vet legislation and change laws especially thoses that effect her own private interests, how convenient no one else can do that.

She will be at cop 26 even though she lobbied for change to environment laws covering land and the vast land she has could be used to re wild instead of burning for grouse shooting. The 1% richest are the worst polluters using jets helicopters and having the use of many State owned grand homes.

Everyone would be happy ? Can’t recall any election which left
everyone happy

If we had a president then Charles or William or George could stand for election, be voted in and then everyone would be happy. Job done.

I keep saying this, what do you propose in its place?
A President? Take a look around the world and come back
to me.
Be thankfull for what you have anything else could be even more expensive

Grany 8 week old babies don’t walk or let alone talk

Down with the Royals
When Prince George was just eight weeks old, the Evening Standard declared him to be 'the most influential person in London'. He couldn't even walk, let alone talk. Yet one day he could become head of state, whether we like it or not. Joan Smith argues that it has become nearly impossible to question the existence of the monarchy. Articulate republicans are drowned out while the supercharged PR and media machines ask only who designed Kate's dresses. Smith topples the arguments for having a monarchy, one by one. The royals don't provide a boost for tourism, and their deliberately opaque accounting conceals the truth about the huge burden they place on the public purse. And she exposes darker truths.

These symbols of so-called impartiality have hidden power and influence. Not only does Charles regularly lobby government ministers but - far from the sycophantic reporting of Kate's baby bump - the royals have dined with despots with blood on their hands. Are these people really fi t to be the public face of a modern country? Ultimately, Smith declares that the monarchy - undemocratic, unaccountable and shockingly expensive - has no place in modern Britain.

Royal Secrets. A Report on Royal Secrecy and Power

The secrecy surrounding the royals has been likened to that of Britain's security services during the Cold War. The monarchy is certainly one of the country's most secretive institutions, gaining access to ministers without any chance of scrutiny, spending public money without proper accountability.

This report goes to the heart of what is wrong with an unaccountable, hereditary institution. This is why democratic values need to be infused into every corner of the state. Yet this report also makes clear that the monarchy is in a difficult position, that it has now become dependent on secrecy to survive. End the secrecy and we may well end the monarchy.