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Reprimanded (Gently) for Letting My 2-Week-Old Grandson See My Face When Parents Want Him to Go To Sleep

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NewGrannyInTX Wed 13-Oct-21 05:57:25

Visiting my new grandson and his parents the other day, the little guy was awake while his dad with holding him, and I was looking into the baby's face, smiling at him and talking to him softly - he was wide awake and I hadn't seen him in a couple of days. Apparently, his mom and dad were trying a new technique to get him to fall asleep, which involved not having him look at faces.... This was a new one on me. And they didn't tell me anything about this in advance, so I was taken aback for essentially being reprimanded for looking at the baby. Really???? I have made it a point to ask them how they want things done (I will become his caregiver when mom and dad go back to work), and this caught me off guard. And honestly, hurt my feelings a bit since it came out of the blue without telling me about it ahead of time. I do plan to tell them to clue me in if they are doing something new, so they don't spring something like that on me again. As a new parent myself, I set boundaries with my own parents that they balked at (like not smoking cigarettes around the baby), but never saw this one coming... I guess I'm looking for some re-assurance that this was indeed over-the-top - or some enlightenment if I am truly behind the times in what to expect.

MarathonRunner Thu 14-Oct-21 11:33:00

I reprimanded my Mum once for giving my 12 month old crisps on his high chair tray at a party I really wish I hadn't as she was only trying to help and the look of hurt and embarrassment on her face still haunts me .
I could have just discreetly picked them up .
I miss her terribly and I understand you must be feeling hurt NewGranny.

Theoddbird Thu 14-Oct-21 11:32:27

I have been looking online to see if I can find something about this...nothing. There is a lot about how important it is for babies to see faces...they need to connect and feel secure to relax. There was a fad with new mothers a few years ago to just let a baby cry. I worked in a department store on a USAF base...it was horrendous...babies crying continuously. Young mothers got together and obviously exchanged ideas...things they had heard. I suspect that this not looking at the babies face will end up stressing them out so much they will stop doing it. A baby needs to be in the arms of a relaxed person to fall asleep.

Suzey Thu 14-Oct-21 11:26:48

They would be looking for someone else to look after it when they returned to work ,seriously ridiculous

Nanna58 Thu 14-Oct-21 11:26:33

Their rules - but I think it’s bl#*dy ridiculous!

christine96777 Thu 14-Oct-21 11:21:11

It does sound a bit ott, but as new parents they will be bombarded with the latest new ideas as well as the worry of getting it right, there were things my dil and ds wanted me to do, it was very much baby lead parenting, which was OK until baby no2 came along, they the benifits of routine are suddenly not so bad,

Yammy Thu 14-Oct-21 11:16:00

It's their first child let them try what they want, it might work or not,I believe babies only see patterns and colours for the first few weeks.
Don't let it show that you took it personally keep your distance for a few days and see if they call for help'
If you do end up as carer make sure you have a written list of all their rules and patterns they follow.
We all love our grandchildren and want as much contact as possible but they are the family unit.
You never know they might realise that some things it will not work ,others will be completely new to you..
My MIL always insisted on changing my children on the settee "Out of the way of draught dear", with a nappy fastened with two pins on the hips until one rolled off and as she caught it the nappy came off in her hands ,she soon reverted to my kite nappy and a changing mat on the floor.
Go with the flow.

Grandma2002 Thu 14-Oct-21 11:14:23

Many years ago I travelled from Yorkshire to London to see my first grandson and when I reached out to hold him (well swaddled in shawl) I was told to wash my hands first. I was also not allowed to have the light on when the baby was being fed, which meant I could not read or entertain myself while this was going on. This was to create absolute calm and quiet. So not a particularly happy memory for this lovely time. I could go on with all the strange rules that governed that household. No idea where all these ideas came from, the other grandma was a very down to earth lovely woman.

SecondhandRose Thu 14-Oct-21 11:09:59

They’re are probably extremely tired. Try not to worry about it.

Dillonsgranma Thu 14-Oct-21 11:09:09

Let it go. They’re shattered new parents and are trying anything that will work!

Hevs Thu 14-Oct-21 11:05:16

Try not to take it to heart. I think we do because our hearts are open, especially with a new baby; the parents are usually just exhausted and all of us snap more when we are tired.
I think new parents are super-sensitive, and I think I was the same. The important thing is to put it in perspective and recognise that all parents have to do it their own way.

I have came home at least a couple of times and cried when I was hurt at being reprimanded because I did something 'wrong' - or at least that's how I felt at the time.
When you are a new grandparent it is like walking on eggshells. In addition, modern mums tend to be very book oriented, such and such a book says this etc etc. With time, this tends to wear off. I do try to keep quiet at times, but often get told off for nagging my daughter, when it's often more of a reaction to what she's just told me. And then being a mother, I feel bad, even though I can see it's pointless!

Madashell Thu 14-Oct-21 11:02:29

Cut the parents some slack and remember your early baby days. My babies were little s***s to get to sleep and I was on my knees - I’d’ve tried this technique if it had been around. Although you will have childcare later let Mum and Dad have time and space to adjust. If you are of “a certain age” you may be emotionally sensitive as well as being thrilled with a new grandchild. The parents were trying to be kind with you, perhaps they need you to back off a little, you will have lots of fun times in the future. All the best to everyone - being the best family you can be isn’t always easy.

Bumboseat1 Thu 14-Oct-21 11:00:40

Move on !

PaperMonster Wed 13-Oct-21 17:02:16

They should have said they were trying to get him off to sleep! But it’s hardly a new method- my daughter’s ten and if my OH was putting her to sleep I’d have to remind him not to make eye contact or she’d never get off! Although at that age, she mostly fell asleep at the boob!

JenniferEccles Wed 13-Oct-21 16:30:01

There will always be so called baby care experts who would like to convince young parents that they have all the answers on all things baby related.
They will, naturally have books to flog to accompany their pearls of wisdom!

Most of us I’m sure, remember just muddling through and somehow our little bundles of joy grew up unscathed to reproduce themselves and so the cycle continues!

chris8888 Wed 13-Oct-21 16:05:17

It is a minefield isn`t it, I do feel for you it is so easy to get it wrong. I am sure most of us are guilty of causing some slight that we don`t mean.
New parents though, trying to get it right themselves.

Farmor15 Wed 13-Oct-21 15:45:35

What I picked up from this post was that NewGranny hadn't seen him for a couple of days, suggesting that previously she had seen him more often. Perhaps what the parents were subtly trying to tell her was not to visit so often! They are still learning to be parents and bond with their baby and perhaps they would prefer to do it without anyone else around.

Maybe it would be better to gradually increase the time between visits - at least for now. Don't make a big deal of it, just find other things to do - see if they want help with shopping or cooking etc. If you're going to be the primary caregiver later on, you'll have plenty of time to get to know your grandson.

luluaugust Wed 13-Oct-21 14:22:21

Well, what fun it is going to be if baby will only sleep in dad's arms, good luck to them with that one! Don't worry about any of this we are awash with ideas, techniques, books etc on how to get baby to sleep I doubt many of them work if baby has decided not to sleep. Very soon you will be able to interact with the little chap eye contact and all. Biggest tip - say nothing and keep smiling.

Fleur20 Wed 13-Oct-21 12:36:56

Dont worry too much about this.. there will be another technique along in a couple of weeks...I have no idea how the human species has survived.. and thrived.. before techniques were invented!!
Deep breath and move on... it wont be the last time your feelings are crushed and you are infirmed you do it wrong!!
grin

Callistemon Wed 13-Oct-21 12:27:07

I remember this idea being around when mine were young

I do remember with DC and DGC, not making eye contact when they were drowsy or if they stirred and I crept in to see if they were all right.

However, this father is using a slightly different method.

Namsnanny Wed 13-Oct-21 12:14:01

gmarie

Eye contact is engaging and will often make a drowsy baby fight to stay awake. The poor parents are probably exhausted and may have reacted a little snappishly.

Let any resentment go.

I remember this idea being around when mine were young.

But it's not about the idea it's about the fact that they felt you overstepped the mark.
Of course you didnt mean to.
They have put you straight. Just accept it and move on.

You are involved in your gc life enjoy it.

Callistemon Wed 13-Oct-21 12:07:49

They are all different and respond differently but getting him used to being walked around, talked to etc without trying putting him gently in a warm cot and see if he goes off to sleep quietly on his own will cause them difficulties later.

I had one who needed walking around - the first, of course - and the others just went off to sleep on their own.

Lucca Wed 13-Oct-21 12:07:12

Hithere

In fact, it is the case that relatives of the new baby are over anxious to be involved and to have input on how the baby is raised.

Not always !!

jaylucy Wed 13-Oct-21 12:03:44

Not heard the "not looking at" technique for getting a baby to sleep before, especially with such a tiny baby.
Surely that is one way that the connection is made between parents and bub?
It would have been nice if they had told you beforehand on their plans, so please don't feel so rejected.
Personally, swaddling a baby and putting them up against your heartbeat /gently patting their back in a rhythm has always worked best for me, especially with fairly newborns - they have been inside a small dark space ,hearing their mother's heartbeat for nine months and all of sudden they are expected to sleep where they are not confined, in a much lighter space, without that comforting beat .

EMMF1948 Wed 13-Oct-21 11:57:17

M0nica

It is amazing the rules now applied by parents to ensure the well bing of their babies. I cannot imagine how the human race has managed to grow so much given the conditions and circumstances most babies coming into the world now, not to mention the billions that have been born over the aeons of time have been born and brought up.

I can find nothing about this technique of getting a child to sleep online. It seems counter intuitive, since a child gets comfort and reassurance from seeing a familiar face, no matter how indistinct. We have a photo of me and DS when he was only a few weeks old and his eyes are fixated on my face.

I feel much the same, I'm surprised that humanity has survived all these years without the current experts! It seems that new parents like to make a rod for their own backs then they will something else to moan about. When I meet up with friends we enjoy a bit of competitive stupid ideas sharing, can be hilarious.

Callistemon Wed 13-Oct-21 11:55:47

JaneJudge

they are most probably just knackered

They'll be even more knackered if he gets used to this method of going to sleep!

But don't say a word, NewGranny, just hope he gets out of it before you have to look after him.