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Nanagem Sun 31-Oct-21 00:17:30

My son and DIL have been staying for a week, they normally come for a long weekend, and I have never really worried about what the girls do or don’t eat, they seem to leave a lot on their plates, but the excitement of staying etc ??‍♀️.

They are 2 and 4 years old, and seem healthy though a little skinny, but their mum is. They eat well most days like most little ones have their likes and dislikes, good and bad days.

The thing is, I don’t like to much waste, I would rather offer less and then seconds, too much can be overwhelming and it cuts waste especially when money is tight.

But my son and DIL seem to pile the children’s plates up, today breakfast was cereal, their dishes were full to the top, couple of spoons each, rest binned so then they were hungry later and my son made them crumpets- 2 each, each eat about half of one, rest in bin. Lunch, cheese sandwiches, I made these, one slice of bread each, half bag crisps, cheese string some tomato/cucumber/pepper then a yoghurt. My son said that wasn’t enough, I said I would make more if needed, it wasn’t, they left a small amount but were full. Dinner sausage/wedges/peas/sweet corn. I cooked 4 sausages but served 2 - 1 each, they eat that then shared another, I know it’s only one sausage, but when I think of all the food I’ve thrown out this week ?, tonight they didn’t touch their edges put had most of the peas, 1 eat her corn as well.

I know wonder if I’m being unreasonable, it’s only a week, perhaps it’s normal to offer huge portions and let them pick what they want. It’s just my son and DIL then worry about them not eating, and I feel they are offering to much ??‍♀️.

What is a normal healthy amount ?

I can’t be that wrong, I raised 3 healthy children who are now just average in weight ??‍♀️.

Sorry about the long rambling post, I just don’t want to interfere, but so much has been thrown out it’s frustrating.

Gabrielle56 Tue 02-Nov-21 11:27:10

Ditto my GC feeding time too (when I saw them last) uneaten cereal every day, uneaten dinners, massive bowls of slow cooked casseroles etc all ending up binned, yet healthy bonkers lively and bright! I used to prep a lunchbowl for GD at 2- some cherry Toms cheese, grandma toast (!) And usually a grandma cheesy omlette one egg bit cheese butter to cook, she gobbled it all up then a satsuma, strawbs or fridge cold apple sliced in a bowl(even though mummy says she doesn't like apples...!) I'm a grazer as is she, big meals overface and bits and bobs delight!

Calistemon Mon 01-Nov-21 14:43:35

Marilla

A big thank you to both Grans who included the very useful links. I look after my 18 month old grandson and portions have been my worry. Am I giving him too much or too little?
These simple guides are excellent.

Yes, it is useful but would not have worked with a couple of mine - one would have demolished the recommended portion of dinner in the blink of an eye and be asking for more and another would have to be encouraged to eat it!

4allweknow Mon 01-Nov-21 14:37:23

Portion control is a massive problem these days and causes a lot of obesity. You seem to be appalling a realistic approach h to your GCs eating. Would stick with it.

grandtanteJE65 Mon 01-Nov-21 13:13:31

Talk quietly to your son. Point out that you do not grudge the children or their parents as much as they can eat, but that you dislike waste, both on environmental grounds and on account of your purse!

There is no reason why food that was not eaten could not have been kept for later- okay, perhaps not cornflakes and milk, although my mother would have been quite capable of keeping it until mid-morning when we got hungry!

Marilla Mon 01-Nov-21 12:35:29

A big thank you to both Grans who included the very useful links. I look after my 18 month old grandson and portions have been my worry. Am I giving him too much or too little?
These simple guides are excellent.

GraceQuirrel Mon 01-Nov-21 12:21:29

They are spoiled. I lived with a man for 12 awful years who had twin daughters. Would pile their plate high, let them choose whatever they wanted, then they wouldn’t like it then he’d let them have sweets to compensate. If they came to stay for a week we threw out so much it was disgusting. And they were obese. This even happened at restaurants where they didn’t like what arrived and he’d order something else for both and pay twice x 2! They were playing him and he couldn’t (and 20 years on) still can’t see it.

lizzypopbottle Mon 01-Nov-21 12:10:11

Two crumpets each for children that age is ridiculous!

Scrape all the wasted food into a container on the table so all can see it build up! Keep it in the fridge between meals. Suggest they do the shopping? Food waste is a huge issue, these days.

Or is that all a tad confrontational? ???

They must waste a similar, huge amount of food when they're at home.

Nan6 Mon 01-Nov-21 11:57:14

This is the best (non-food industry linked) evidence based info:

www.firststepsnutrition.org/eating-well-early-years

Nannashirlz Mon 01-Nov-21 11:40:57

My son don’t pile up my youngest grandson plate he gets a little bit of this and that but if he eats it then he gets more he’s nearly 3 but he goes through phases one day he will eat loads following day not as much. Step grandson he’s 10 and eats loads but my oldest granddaughter is 10 and she is fussy never used to be but this last year she as and her daddy my oldest son loves to waste food. But she laughs when I say if I went to my nannas and I left food she wouldn’t let me leave table till I cleaned my plate and she used to say food cost money lol.

Oneillg3 Mon 01-Nov-21 11:29:18

On your phone/search engine look at 5532 - British Nutrition. Org guidelines for Preschoolers

Mallin Mon 01-Nov-21 11:28:39

I still remember hearing the instructions to an auntie I was going to stay with.
“ She doesn’t like the skin on blancmange or rice pudding. If you give her something she says she doesn’t like then believe her. Any 6yr old who loves brussels, winkles and those Indian curries, is certainly not going to be a fussy eater”
That was 70yrs ago.
Though 76 yrs later my great grandchildren have never been given Brussels or winkles. Curries however, which were hardly heard of in those days, are just common everyday food.
How fashions change!

NemosMum Mon 01-Nov-21 11:20:51

Frankly, I think you're worrying too much. You are unlikely to change the parents' behaviour. I agree that it does sound as though the parents are putting too much on plates, but the children are not overweight and it will not have cost you all that much over a week. I do think it's better to let the children serve themselves at the table, but be prepared for eyes to be bigger than tummies! It is an irritation, but not worth risking falling out IMO.

LovelyLady Mon 01-Nov-21 11:18:13

When at Granny’s it’s food on the table and help yourself to the bowls or dishes on the table. They can have more when needed.
We do this at our home and the children like the good table manners. Perhaps have napkins to add to the appeal cups and saucers “Please pass the potatoes or vegetables or ???
The children love the formality. Worth a try.

Grandma2213 Mon 01-Nov-21 02:30:07

Looking at my own DGC I think everyone seems to be different. One will eat a big 'sit down' meal with no snacks between. Another seems to like little and often (usually healthy) and will leave half a normal meal. Then the one who eats big meals and is constantly hungry and snacking, including 'rubbish'. Plus the other who leaves most of their food at mealtimes and rarely snacks. All of them seem to be normal weight for their height.

Chewbacca Sun 31-Oct-21 23:38:42

My GD (aged 9) has a very good appetite, eats pretty much anything and everything and always clears her plate. GS (aged 5) is a picky eater, changes his mind frequently as to what he likes and dislikes and rarely clears his plate unless he's going through a growth spurt. My solution is to put everything onto serving dishes and let them help themselves. I've found that what's left on the serving dishes at the end of the meal, usually gets picked off and eaten by them as they wander past through the kitchen later. And no; that doesn't bother me in the slightest.

MissAdventure @ 20.17, you're absolutely right.

Calistemon Sun 31-Oct-21 22:54:40

I think much can depend on whether they are having a growth spurt or not, too.

SpringyChicken Sun 31-Oct-21 22:49:51

This is quite a helpful link on portion sizes.

www.swft.nhs.uk/application/files/4314/7929/4203/Recommended_intake_and_portion_sizes_for_children_-_all_appendices_2016_FINAL.pdf

I would say your ideas on portion sizes are about right but maybe it's best to keep the peace for the sake of family harmony?

Calistemon Sun 31-Oct-21 22:13:40

So much food which is grown, produced and sold is wasted.

It seems terrible to me, when so many people are hungry, that others can discard it so carelessly.

Madgran77 Sun 31-Oct-21 22:10:34

It is entirely reasonable for the OP to not want HER food that SHE has paid for wasted! She is not asking them to "parent differently", she is just saying she doesn't want her food wasted! Which is why a sensible conversation with the parents seems a good way forward!! Dear me! confused

MissAdventure Sun 31-Oct-21 20:17:40

Thec point being made, (not fixated upon) is that the children aren't actually eating a lot.
They're leaving it.
And it's fine to discuss it here.

Hithere Sun 31-Oct-21 19:36:25

What you are asking is for the parents to stop parenting their way to satisfy your standards.

Kids eat way more than you think they do, according to their size.

Please enjoy their company instead of fixating on how you would do it vs their way

SueDonim Sun 31-Oct-21 17:46:48

That’s one thing I’ve found very difficult to watch with some of my own GC, Nanagem. The sheer waste! When my GC (aged 4 & 7) were staying with us over the summer we were filling the kitchen food waste bin up every day or day and a half. With all the emphasis now on climate change and so on, it absolutely grates with me.

I’ve learnt to deal with it by absenting myself at the children’s mealtimes. I don’t understand the need for constant snacks, especially the snack within half an hour of a meal being put on the table or a snack before going out for lunch in 30 minutes. Not only is most of the snack wasted, most of the lunch is uneaten, too. ?‍♀️

PaperMonster Sun 31-Oct-21 15:56:13

We allowed my daughter to control how much she wanted on her plate when she was a toddler - still do now she’s ten actually. Eliminates waste and also allows toddlers the self control they are practising naturally.

Nell8 Sun 31-Oct-21 11:28:20

I half remember one of those Supernanny type programmes where the children's reluctance to eat much was attributed to how much they were drinking and when. Perhaps that appetite spoiling line could be worth investigating?

Calistemon Sun 31-Oct-21 11:17:25

It's offputting to be faced with too much food.
I could never finish a full plate of food when I was a small child and remember everyone applauding the first time I ate up all my dinner (including sprouts).

Your approach seems sensible Nanagem

I find if some food is put on serving plates in the middle they tend to eat more, perhaps because they may be worried they may not get their fair share. Then offer more if it all goes.