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Nanagem Sun 31-Oct-21 00:17:30

My son and DIL have been staying for a week, they normally come for a long weekend, and I have never really worried about what the girls do or don’t eat, they seem to leave a lot on their plates, but the excitement of staying etc ??‍♀️.

They are 2 and 4 years old, and seem healthy though a little skinny, but their mum is. They eat well most days like most little ones have their likes and dislikes, good and bad days.

The thing is, I don’t like to much waste, I would rather offer less and then seconds, too much can be overwhelming and it cuts waste especially when money is tight.

But my son and DIL seem to pile the children’s plates up, today breakfast was cereal, their dishes were full to the top, couple of spoons each, rest binned so then they were hungry later and my son made them crumpets- 2 each, each eat about half of one, rest in bin. Lunch, cheese sandwiches, I made these, one slice of bread each, half bag crisps, cheese string some tomato/cucumber/pepper then a yoghurt. My son said that wasn’t enough, I said I would make more if needed, it wasn’t, they left a small amount but were full. Dinner sausage/wedges/peas/sweet corn. I cooked 4 sausages but served 2 - 1 each, they eat that then shared another, I know it’s only one sausage, but when I think of all the food I’ve thrown out this week ?, tonight they didn’t touch their edges put had most of the peas, 1 eat her corn as well.

I know wonder if I’m being unreasonable, it’s only a week, perhaps it’s normal to offer huge portions and let them pick what they want. It’s just my son and DIL then worry about them not eating, and I feel they are offering to much ??‍♀️.

What is a normal healthy amount ?

I can’t be that wrong, I raised 3 healthy children who are now just average in weight ??‍♀️.

Sorry about the long rambling post, I just don’t want to interfere, but so much has been thrown out it’s frustrating.

Shandy57 Sun 31-Oct-21 00:27:14

Could you try allowing them to serve themselves?

I always hated how my Mother piled my plate up and I had to eat it all before I could leave the table. When I had my children they always served themselves from the dishes on the table.

ElaineI Sun 31-Oct-21 00:58:55

Sounds like the parents make more than double what they eat. Skinny is good BTW. If they did baby led weaning then this could be the follow on from that. My DGC are slightly similar. Parents offer more and some is binned. I offer less and usually eaten. Can have more if they want but rarely do. All of us conform to no pudding if not enough is eaten from main course. DGD gets up at 6 so by teatime around 5.30 is tired and crochety especially on nursery days so battling with her is a hiding to nothing. She is 4. Her brother is almost 8. He now wolfs down most things and asks for more. He was like his sister till this year. I think it's just normal but depends a bit on upbringing. DSiL family pile stuff on plates then lots goes in bin. Our family put what we will eat on plates and generally finish it. Sometimes with young children you pick the battle! I think to keep the peace just do what the parents do. I have to say though DD2 works in CAMHS and since pandemic they are struggling with children and teenagers with anorexia - some critically ill. It is one way kids can can control something in their life when everything else has gone haywire - and it is not just teenagers. So when you have DGC pre-teens and older and their intake of food changes - be alert.

Dorsetcupcake61 Sun 31-Oct-21 05:18:50

OP your approach sounds sensible to me. My mother always served big portions,which I tended to do as well. I have always struggled with my weight as have my daughters to a certain degree.
My eldest daughter has two boys aged 5 and nearly 3. She has always paid attention to a healthy diet. Her approach is the same as yours. The boys have healthy fresh meals in portions that initially to me seemed small,as do her portions for adult meals.
It was only after I changed my diet from plans where some foods are unlimited to a calorie controlled one I realised how big my portions were!
Dear GC do have treats occasionally but snacks between meals are not processed foods and they normally drink milk/ water.
They are happy,healthy and active and eat a varied diet.
Obesity is such a problem now and I think both my daughter and I want GC to have a healthy approach to eating. Food is an enjoyable social occasion but other ways are found for treats/ comfort.
Choice and individual taste are respected.
I do feel large portions of food and the constant opportunity to graze contribute to problems later on.

Calendargirl Sun 31-Oct-21 07:56:45

I agree totally with you OP. My own children, now well in their 40’s, were expected to not waste food, I served a reasonable amount and offered seconds if needed.

I do the same with the GC, sometimes ‘their eyes are bigger than their belly’, and they know they can have seconds if they finish what’s on their plates. As GS said once when he was younger ‘You don’t like waste do you Granny?’

I have three other GC in Australia, their mum, our DD, seemed to offer them far more at meals, plus snacks, and didn’t seem to mind if they wasted stuff. Think this stemmed from my Aussie SIL, who seemed to equate big meals with big, strong healthy kids, a rather macho image he rather liked.

But I think many parents nowadays pile up their children’s plates, then think nothing of scraping it in the bin.

MissAdventure Sun 31-Oct-21 08:01:23

I don't like waste, bit more to the point, I always think "Oh, I could have eaten that!"

Baggs Sun 31-Oct-21 08:08:31

Your approach sounds sensible to me, nansagem.

Kim19 Sun 31-Oct-21 08:09:40

Yes I'm impressed by the way my GC start with reasonable portions and have a little extra if desired. My Mum was a full plates and 'eat it up or no pudding' person. Think I probably did overeat as a child but maybe it was healthier food in wartime. Can't remember much detail. We sure didn't do waste and I'm still of that ilk now.

Newquay Sun 31-Oct-21 08:45:24

I’m easily overfaced by a loaded plate as was one of our DDs-mealtimes we’re hard work. She doesn’t eat a lot now.
I can’t stand waste-I would be tempted, instead of binning food, to scrape it into a container to freeze for me for later!

Sago Sun 31-Oct-21 09:05:19

My children and grandchildren always love/loved “ goody plates” it could be a boiled egg, carrot and cheese sticks, some prawns, apple slices, you get the idea!
Lots of different textures and flavours, really healthy and inexpensive.

MissAdventure Sun 31-Oct-21 09:07:19

We had those when we were skint. smile
All the leftover bits and bobs.

mumofmadboys Sun 31-Oct-21 09:17:31

I agree smaller portions and seconds if wanted seems best way to go. I abhor waste.I dont think we should be encouraging children to overeat or praise them for empty plates- it gives the wrong message.

Madgran77 Sun 31-Oct-21 11:01:14

Could you just have a chat with the parents, saying " I love to see the children enjoying their food but woukd prefer not to waste food if they can't manage it. So I will serve smaller portions and add extra if they want seconds. That way anything left over can be frozen or rehashed for another time!"

That way everyone is clear that you are not depriving tge children, you are just ensuring no wastage

Calistemon Sun 31-Oct-21 11:17:25

It's offputting to be faced with too much food.
I could never finish a full plate of food when I was a small child and remember everyone applauding the first time I ate up all my dinner (including sprouts).

Your approach seems sensible Nanagem

I find if some food is put on serving plates in the middle they tend to eat more, perhaps because they may be worried they may not get their fair share. Then offer more if it all goes.

Nell8 Sun 31-Oct-21 11:28:20

I half remember one of those Supernanny type programmes where the children's reluctance to eat much was attributed to how much they were drinking and when. Perhaps that appetite spoiling line could be worth investigating?

PaperMonster Sun 31-Oct-21 15:56:13

We allowed my daughter to control how much she wanted on her plate when she was a toddler - still do now she’s ten actually. Eliminates waste and also allows toddlers the self control they are practising naturally.

SueDonim Sun 31-Oct-21 17:46:48

That’s one thing I’ve found very difficult to watch with some of my own GC, Nanagem. The sheer waste! When my GC (aged 4 & 7) were staying with us over the summer we were filling the kitchen food waste bin up every day or day and a half. With all the emphasis now on climate change and so on, it absolutely grates with me.

I’ve learnt to deal with it by absenting myself at the children’s mealtimes. I don’t understand the need for constant snacks, especially the snack within half an hour of a meal being put on the table or a snack before going out for lunch in 30 minutes. Not only is most of the snack wasted, most of the lunch is uneaten, too. ?‍♀️

Hithere Sun 31-Oct-21 19:36:25

What you are asking is for the parents to stop parenting their way to satisfy your standards.

Kids eat way more than you think they do, according to their size.

Please enjoy their company instead of fixating on how you would do it vs their way

MissAdventure Sun 31-Oct-21 20:17:40

Thec point being made, (not fixated upon) is that the children aren't actually eating a lot.
They're leaving it.
And it's fine to discuss it here.

Madgran77 Sun 31-Oct-21 22:10:34

It is entirely reasonable for the OP to not want HER food that SHE has paid for wasted! She is not asking them to "parent differently", she is just saying she doesn't want her food wasted! Which is why a sensible conversation with the parents seems a good way forward!! Dear me! confused

Calistemon Sun 31-Oct-21 22:13:40

So much food which is grown, produced and sold is wasted.

It seems terrible to me, when so many people are hungry, that others can discard it so carelessly.

SpringyChicken Sun 31-Oct-21 22:49:51

This is quite a helpful link on portion sizes.

www.swft.nhs.uk/application/files/4314/7929/4203/Recommended_intake_and_portion_sizes_for_children_-_all_appendices_2016_FINAL.pdf

I would say your ideas on portion sizes are about right but maybe it's best to keep the peace for the sake of family harmony?

Calistemon Sun 31-Oct-21 22:54:40

I think much can depend on whether they are having a growth spurt or not, too.

Chewbacca Sun 31-Oct-21 23:38:42

My GD (aged 9) has a very good appetite, eats pretty much anything and everything and always clears her plate. GS (aged 5) is a picky eater, changes his mind frequently as to what he likes and dislikes and rarely clears his plate unless he's going through a growth spurt. My solution is to put everything onto serving dishes and let them help themselves. I've found that what's left on the serving dishes at the end of the meal, usually gets picked off and eaten by them as they wander past through the kitchen later. And no; that doesn't bother me in the slightest.

MissAdventure @ 20.17, you're absolutely right.

Grandma2213 Mon 01-Nov-21 02:30:07

Looking at my own DGC I think everyone seems to be different. One will eat a big 'sit down' meal with no snacks between. Another seems to like little and often (usually healthy) and will leave half a normal meal. Then the one who eats big meals and is constantly hungry and snacking, including 'rubbish'. Plus the other who leaves most of their food at mealtimes and rarely snacks. All of them seem to be normal weight for their height.