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Bluebellwould Sun 31-Oct-21 13:25:05

I know old(er) people are not useless and slung on the scrap heap but…
I have just seen a picture of the Queen and Camilla with the headline that Camilla is going to take on more duties to save the Queen. That makes it that a 74 year old is taking up more work than she is currently doing. Putting aside all prejudices against her I just thought the RF are hardly presenting a dynamic leadership for Britain.
When you look at the RF’s of Europe they present a much more current and contemporary face of monarchy, with their tradition of replacing the head of state at a sensible age.
I think it’s very sad that, if the Queen lives for another ten years, like her mother, then Charles will be 82 and another elderly king.
Do we need younger Kings and Queens to represent us so that the UK is not seen as a doddering old country, or does it make no difference to how we seem to other countries or to ourselves?

Calistemon Wed 03-Nov-21 16:34:00

I think that's what I meant. DH was asking me another question at the same time.

I think I meant the RF we have at the moment are benign - on the whole - although one can always think of an exception to the rule.

Alegrias1 Wed 03-Nov-21 16:22:19

I think Callistemon's point is that there have been many bad presidents.

Its not like there have ever been any bad kings and queens, is it? wink

Calistemon Wed 03-Nov-21 15:00:16

Me neither after I read it

Lucca Wed 03-Nov-21 14:59:04

I don’t understand ?

Calistemon Wed 03-Nov-21 14:57:40

Maybe you missed it.

Yes, I did.

You are joking! Don’t you remember all the (justified) criticism of Donald Trump ?
No, nor Ceaușescu, Mugabe, Assad, Putin etc etc

I think I'll stick with our Royal Family.

M0nica Wed 03-Nov-21 14:47:52

It is not how many cars you have but how much they are driven. The RF have a reputation, as private car owners of buying a car and then running it for decades,

On official cars, as has been pointed out their calalcades are shorter and consume less petrol than those of many a president, or the heads of quite tiny states.

Lucca Wed 03-Nov-21 14:17:43

Anniebach

Calistemon presidents are exempt from criticism

You are joking! Don’t you remember all the (justified) criticism of Donald Trump ?

trisher Wed 03-Nov-21 12:58:48

Funny isn't it that the only defence for the RF is a comment about what Presidents have. Just shows how indefensible owning so many gas guzzling cars is.

Alegrias1 Wed 03-Nov-21 11:44:11

Anniebach

Calistemon presidents are exempt from criticism

The Queen and COP26 thread this morning.

Much criticism of Biden's 20-car cavalcade.

Maybe you missed it.

Calistemon Wed 03-Nov-21 11:39:01

The Royal Family - how many people are we discussing when we talk about the numbers of cars they own?

Anniebach Wed 03-Nov-21 11:38:49

Calistemon presidents are exempt from criticism

Calistemon Wed 03-Nov-21 11:37:23

So as we're. looking at climate change this week I wonderedhow many cars the RF actually owns. This is an interesting article
But they can only use one at a time hmm

Anniebach Wed 03-Nov-21 11:36:56

‘It has been reported ‘ must be true then

Calistemon Wed 03-Nov-21 11:36:18

So as we're. looking at climate change this week I wondered how many cars the RF actually owns. This is an interesting article

How many private jets and cars did Presidents need just to get to the Conference with their entourages?

trisher Wed 03-Nov-21 11:30:34

So as we're. looking at climate change this week I wonderedhow many cars the RF actually owns. This is an interesting article www.cheatsheet.com/entertainment/royal-family-car-collection.html/
So is this www.lookers.co.uk/blog/favourite-cars-of-the-royal-family
So how about to show how green they really are they flog off some of those vehicles and give the money to a green charity????

nadateturbe Wed 03-Nov-21 11:13:57

Yes, I know that Anniebach. I am very much anti monarchy, as you know. We are all entitled to our opinions. And it's been discussed many times.

I'm just wondering what "It was only Grany after all" means.

Anniebach Wed 03-Nov-21 10:49:38

Thank you Maddy for something which we discuss.

What changes would you like to see ?

maddyone Wed 03-Nov-21 10:39:40

The royals do enjoy huge privilege, but then again so do many others. I consider myself to be privileged because I have a very good husband who loves me, and three wonderful adult children, not to mention the four gorgeous grandchildren. Other people endure terrible tragedies in their lives including the royals. The problem is the bowing and scraping that makes the royals appear/think they are different to the rest of us. They’re not, they are there by an accident of birth. Unless the monarchy is modernised I’m afraid I think that younger people will eventually demand an end to it.

Anniebach Wed 03-Nov-21 10:29:15

Yes only grany used the derogatory term nadateturbe you
agreed with her,

nadateturbe Wed 03-Nov-21 10:17:14

only Grany??

Anniebach Wed 03-Nov-21 09:52:11

Yes one who does menial work , thank you

Alegrias1 Wed 03-Nov-21 09:33:51

OK, one more smile

flun·ky also flun·key (flŭng′kē)
n. pl. flun·kies also flun·keys
1. A person of slavish or unquestioning obedience; a lackey.
2. One who does menial or trivial work; a drudge.
3. A liveried manservant.

Alegrias1 Wed 03-Nov-21 09:32:39

er...the people that are paid to serve them? The staff? The people who put the toothpaste on his toothbrush in the morning? At the risk of being tasteless, the people who help the queen get dressed, and have done for several decades?

There's no shame in being a servant.

But I'm not getting involved in any more attempts to divert the topic of the thread with irrelevancies.

Mollygo Wed 03-Nov-21 09:31:26

Anniebach no comment. It was only Grany after all and she couldn’t mean you because a flunkey is a manservant or liveried foot man. A bit sexist but hey, having a man to do the work . . .

Anniebach Wed 03-Nov-21 09:27:50

Servants ? What is the definition of servant ?