M&S diversity officers give staff pronoun badges……. a step too far?

I honestly did not expect that memory to resurface. Sorry for inflicting it lol

Galaxy

Mannequin is a really weird word.

it was even a film

See, even science teachers are at it! The tits and bum cracks were a favourite. I am not sure we need to think about what they did with all the fingers.

I can't believe I have posted this on Gransnet

Mannequin is a really weird word.

I remember when I was at school one of the teachers had a female anatomy mannequin. It was a torso and head and different parts could be removed. It wore a shirt when not in use.

A rumour went around school that said science teacher was seen with his hand up the shirt. I guess either it was a rumour or he was lucky smart phones didn't exist back then

Aveline

Not just any madness, M&S madness!

Well said Aveline!

This country is going to hell in a hand basket. You would think that M&S, a business in terminal decline, would have more to worry about than this woke nonsense.

Dear God I missed Janejudges post. Maybe we could get rid of the mannequins too.

Good argument for not letting these pervs into women only spaces.

Yes I agree completely. M,F and unisex would be perfect.

Oh nooooo!!!!!

Some poor sod had the job of having to clean the poor abused mannequins too. I had to find spare fingers to glue back on. I had forgotten about this..what a varied life I have had involving other people's debauchery

Your work sounds interesting Callistemon?

Good grief Jane. I have lead a very sheltered life.

Janejudge

Wow that is disgusting

JaneJudge that's a new one on me (and I thought I knew quite a lot through my work!!)

Good lord JaneJudge that’s horrendous. ?

I don’t have a problem with it and it’s probably more for colleagues to know how to address each other. It’s not Law but it is unlawful to treat someone differently under the Equalities Act. From my opinion it’s great that I would know how someone wants to be addressed if I needed to without wondering. I know some non-binary people who I address by their names as that’s easier.

Aveline

Not just any madness, M&S madness!

Quote of the year.
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I worked in a department store at one point and I would not want mixed changing rooms. I think some of you would be surprised what some people (read men) do to the mannequins in plain sight. Security had to remove more than one man a week for finding sexual pleasure with them. They used to break their fingers off too. I feel like I need a vomming emotion

Galaxy

And the sexual assault issue of course MercuryQueen.

The sexual assault issue is why I prefer Male, Female, and Unisex, with everyone minding their own business.

And the sexual assault issue of course MercuryQueen.

Didnt M &S reverse the changing room decision, I thought I read that somewhere, in fact I did some Christmas shopping there last year based on that info!

Chewbacca

Why do I need to know someone's pronoun? What interest or use is it to me when all I want is to ask if something is in stock/how much something is/whether I need a carrier bag or not? Why is someone's private affairs being announced on a badge on their shoulder to customers who dont need that information to make a purchase?

This is the only reason: M&S (to score more Stonewall points) as they have already made the changing rooms in their stores to “unisex”, which means there are no longer safe places for ^women and girls.^

But how does their pronouns being on their badge impact you in a negative manner?

I can see, and mentioned in a previous comment, the potential risk for harm for those wearing the badges.

I don't see the negative impact for customers.

That said, I'm not a fan of all bathrooms being unisex. Male, Female and Unisex would be my preference. Of course, if people didn't insist on policing other people's gender identity, Male and Female would suffice, but an additional unisex bathroom could also potentially shorten the lines at the ladies bathroom.

Are the staff going to enquire of every customer their preferred pronouns?
Incidentally compelled announcing of pronouns is against the yogyakarta principles.

Sorry we cross-posted I just read that Galaxy. I’m not trying to shut anyone up. I just think live and let live.