You couldn't make it up....

There are several posts on the thread that mention remembering paraffin heatersas well as frosted windows. The heaters probably contributed a lot to the ice ferns - paraffin heaters produce lots of water vapour as they burn, which then condenses on the cold window glass, forming very pretty patterns.

Lucca

I also wrote hearing instead of heating…..

My Grandma, who was born in 1900, used to turn her hearing aids off to "save the batteries" ?

When GNs mention water bottles my first thoughts is of my hottie, not my flask.
Although, I suppose for some that could bring to mind whisky.

All of us can produce anecdotal evidence to show that some old people, some young people are variously wildly profligate or virtuously abstemious - especially when they are our children, but it is the generality we have to look at and the generality is that older people are more careful and younger people are more profligate in their consumption of most carbon emitting products.

I can see no good reason why young people, who are willing to put so much time and effort into protesting at COP26 or against plastics in the oceans and have often read extensively about the problem, shouldn't also have looked at themselves and how they live and how their lifestyle impinges in the problem.

Obviously none of us are perfect, but one of the great wriggle outs, you hear it a lot from non-vaxxers, as we cannot have a perfect result there is no point in doing anything at all. The vaccine does not give lifetime protection from ever getting COVID or passing it on, so there is no point in having it. We all know that is a daft attitude and exactly the same applies to not doing our best, each and everyone of us, regardless of age, to live an environmentally helpful life.

Obviously, not all young people are using plastic water bottles! But there seems to be enough to warrant mass production of them. And billions of them have been used. If ever there was a problem around 'single use plastics' it is those. I hope the recycling schemes they are starting in shops will become the norm. You drop your bottles in the machine and get some money back.

It wasn't any one remark, I just wanted to join in and be silly

‘Frosty ferns’ on the inside of the windows! Our first house had metal window frames. We certainly had frosty ferns.

I also wrote hearing instead of heating…..

Sorry was that me who prompted your remark ?
I was just trying to point out that not all young people are profligate !
Anyway you made me laugh for at least the third time today !

Well...
For goodness sake!

MissAdventure

My grandsons knit their own water bottles, and sit in their pants in sub zero temperatures drinking out of them.

Stop it !! ???

My grandsons knit their own water bottles, and sit in their pants in sub zero temperatures drinking out of them.

Chestnut

No-one is pitting one age group against the other. We perfectly understand that younger people have not known hardship and wouldn't expect them to be frugal by nature. But with so many environmental issues in the headlines they should be picking up some good habits along the way. My particular gripe is bottled water. I'm sure they think nothing of buying water in plastic bottles but really need to kick that habit. I dread to think how many plastic water bottles have been thrown out in the last 20 years.

Well my son and family never use single use plastic water bottles, they hardly have the hearing on partly as it’s not good for GD eczema. Frankly I think they’re doing “better” than me !

GillT57

I am just having a very childish snigger at "old people's emissions"

Oh Lord yes ?

All my children’s friends have reusable water bottles and have had for years, they buy second hand clothes and have had a very ‘competitive charity shopping’ habit since they were in their teens and they are in their 20s now. They don’t own cars, buy veg etc from the market and mend clothes. I really don’t recognise these profligate over consumers people talk about.

I am having guilt pangs about the clothes I scorched warming them up on aforementioned paraffin stoves.

No-one is pitting one age group against the other. We perfectly understand that younger people have not known hardship and wouldn't expect them to be frugal by nature. But with so many environmental issues in the headlines they should be picking up some good habits along the way. My particular gripe is bottled water. I'm sure they think nothing of buying water in plastic bottles but really need to kick that habit. I dread to think how many plastic water bottles have been thrown out in the last 20 years.

I also find the I am greener than you problematic and usually nothing to do with the environment. And if you dig down you find that those who wear an extra jumper have 5 children or fly regularly or whatever.

GillT57

I am just having a very childish snigger at "old people's emissions"

Excellent!!

The world must be warmer as I now live in the house I was originally brought up in after living in 20+ other houses It has not been updated since the days when I used to wake up with frosty inside windows I have no different heating system bar I have a gas fire where my Nan had an open fire but I ve never ever had a frosty inside window since the last 30 + years I ve been here
I think it’s harsh to tar all the younger generation as your friends daughters habits. NONE of my grandchildren have ‘hot houses’ in fact the two in U.K. have been brought up in a 16* house and feel very over heated if they go into higher ones

I am just having a very childish snigger at "old people's emissions"

A generalisation is a 'some', or perhaps a many, not an all. If I had meant all I would have said so.

As it is I have the data to support my case.

Galaxy

I think generalizing about generations and pitting one group against another just isnt helpful. Presumably these young people were raised by our generation so ...

Absolutely agree.

Also, competitive “who had it worse” at play.

M0nica

What puzzles me, is that with global warming such an immediate problem and so well known and those under 30 being the group that gets so outraged about older people's emission producing habits, they, themselves, make little or no effort to look at how they live and what they can do.

As OP says, more clothes on and turn the thermostat down also switching lights off, drawing curtains, even in double glazed properties, swapping all bulbs for LEDs.

Some
Not all

Like it or not the statistics show that it is older people who have the most environmentally conscious lifestyles.
inews.co.uk/news/environment/climate-friendly-habits-recycling-over-55s-plastic-398704.

It may be a generalisation, and obviously doesn't apply to everybody, in either group. But as a generalisation it is accuraate.

We bring our children up, but we all know that once grown they go on to think independently and act differently to us in every way, and while somethings may be attributed to us. many of their attitudes and views go completely against everything we have taught them.