Well, that was a fun weekend …… not!

Still waiting for power

In common with many other posters, I sympathise with all those who have suffered a lengthy Power Cut. We have not been too badly affected, although our power keeps going off for short periods all over the weekend and up to yesterday (there is still time for it to happen today).
I do worry about being in an all electric modern house (No fireplace or chimneys) and we have a small camping stove and a similar small gas fire (the canisters it uses last about an hour). We have had to be without full cooking facilities since last Wednesday, as we are having a new kitchen fitted. We survived on soup, sandwiches and chips (we have an Air Fryer, when we have electricity)! Fortunately, the cooking/washing facilities are connected again now! The only inconvenience is having to re-set the Oven and Hob every time, with the help of the manuals, of course!

It all sounds just awful and I feel lucky living where I do. We get the winds, I live on a hill and we lost the roof once, but nothing compares to having jo heating. We are lucky that we use a wood burner as our main source of heat so at least we can always stay warm

In the 70s we all used to have some form of battery powered radio,, we didn’t have a TV growing up so all news came via the radio. I didn’t realise how important this can be in times of emergency. Does anyone remember the calls on the radio for Mr and Mrs so and so believed to be holidaying in such and such to get in touch with local police re a relative who is dangerously ill? Sometime older forms of communication are vital, we possibly rely too much on instant, modern forms today.

My friend has a stand down kit as they are prone to power cuts and flooding. She includes some money hidden in the house as last time they could eventually get into the town as the flood went down all the banks were closed and the cash machines were out of order.
We have special bags for flooding and an escape route pinned to a notice board with window keys on a small nail next to our windows.

Earliest estimate for power is Weds evening but the word is that the damage to the network is greater than thought and it’s likely to be longer.

Regarding the tips for being prepared, we always are prepared for such situations, having lived rurally for 25years, but there’s a limit to what you can do. We were without a boiler for a month last winter but managed (uncomfortably) with our own and borrowed electric heaters and an open fire, but with no power at all and in some cases no water, and no comms, you’re living on the edge. Also, I wouldn’t use a camping stove indoors, as there’s a risk of carbon monoxide poisoning.

When the day comes that we are all dependent on electricity, with no wood/fossil fuels permitted, power outages are going to become very difficult to manage indeed.

We've got an LED torch with a magnet so it will stick to the side of the fridge or freezer etc - very handy to find in an emergency.

We had a long power cut a little while ago, not due to the recent storm.
I stuck the torch on the extractor fan above the gas hob so was able to cook something simple.

When the day comes that we are all dependent on electricity, with no wood/fossil fuels permitted, power outages are going to become very difficult to manage indeed.

It is. And from what I can glean, weather patterns will become more unpredictable. I do not think we are well prepared for the effects this will have - in fact, according to government advisors, the UK is woefully unprepared.

There's much we can do on an individual level - and reading the comments on here, it's obvious that there are some very resourceful grans - I've picked up a couple of tips for the future, thanks ladies!

But I am worried, and frustrated at the apparent lack of government action. And not just this government. It's not an 'unknown' issue - previous governments seem to have passed the buck along the line.

The problem of course is cost. Protecting the infrastructure is costly. But if the damage runs into £billions in a relatively short space of time (not to mention the personal cost to the public) then I think it's a total abdication of responsibility.

To me, the future looks bleak. And I'm an optimist.

Have you got your power banks charged? Being without means of communication in an emergency is my worry - my partner is disabled and I - his carer - am semi disabled. Thankfully, we have one or two good neighbours. Not everyone is so fortunate.

My dad was always prepared for anything and I’m the same. I have an old phone I can plug in the BT socket, but what happens if BT stop doing landlines as it looks like they will?

Our power went off again last night but thankfully came back on an hour later. We’d stupidly stopped topping up the hot water in the flasks. The insurance company have left it to us to find someone to repair the roof. I thought insurance companies had a list of people they expected you to use. Our neighbours company have arranged for someone to repair their damage. The insurance company wanted two quotes but we pointed out that no one has the time to go round giving quotes, they’re too bust making everything safe. The wind and rain has picked up again. I don’t think central government has got the faintest idea how bad it is up north at the moment. Our builder said there isn’t enough scaffolding around to do the work, and they’re having to get it from down south.

That sounds awful, Maybee. I hope your power stays on and that you get the repairs done.

It’s pretty difficult to be prepared to cope with no services at all. Power banks etc are worth nothing when there’s no phone signal. People don’t seem to realise that apart from water, there’s nothing working at all. In town, there maybe places you can get to for food/phone etc but in the countryside it’s not the same. You could be miles from your nearest neighbour. My own village has today been sent a food truck, six nights after this all began.

This morning people are out trying to find someone’s elderly dad, who hasn’t been in contact for 48 hours.

25Avalon

My dad was always prepared for anything and I’m the same. I have an old phone I can plug in the BT socket, but what happens if BT stop doing landlines as it looks like they will?

Good question!

So many people can't get a good signal on their mobiles - how are they supposed to cope?

My neighbour has to go to the end of his garden to use his I'm next door and have no problem.

I suppose it's to do with the frequency band. Lower frequencies travel further and penetrate buildings better, but higher ones carry more data. Ideally mobile 'phone companies need to offer a range of bands. But one of the issues is planning laws (the height of masts, location, etc). Apart from cost.

I think it's too early to stop the use of landlines.

MayBee70

Our power went off again last night but thankfully came back on an hour later. We’d stupidly stopped topping up the hot water in the flasks. The insurance company have left it to us to find someone to repair the roof. I thought insurance companies had a list of people they expected you to use. Our neighbours company have arranged for someone to repair their damage. The insurance company wanted two quotes but we pointed out that no one has the time to go round giving quotes, they’re too bust making everything safe. The wind and rain has picked up again. I don’t think central government has got the faintest idea how bad it is up north at the moment. Our builder said there isn’t enough scaffolding around to do the work, and they’re having to get it from down south.

Just makes you think as we are meant to go green so NO wood burning stove .With the power company saying all places will be reconnected by Wednesday after 8Days What will heat our houses that doesn’t rely on electric It wouldn’t have lasted so long in London

A state of emergency was only announced a day or so ago!

How are you doing now, Maybee? We’re home properly now though I haven’t yet restocked my freezers. There are still a few hundred souls in this area that haven’t yet had power restored. I cannot imagine how they’ve coped. Today we’ve had torrential rain for much of the day - as if it wasn’t bad enough anyway.

I hope there’s some sort of investigation into what has happened. Resilience plans were meant to have been put in place after Storm Frank but there has been not a whisper of them being activated. I didn’t see a single reference to the effects in my area until the Monday, when presumably someone went into the office and caught up on the news.

Hopefully the roof will be repaired on Monday. We woke up to the sound of drilling and sawing this morning. There is scaffolding up everywhere. To see so many beautiful trees being cut up and transported away is so distressing. There are still trees resting on other trees that aren’t necessarily dangerous at the moment but could be. The Rookery tree up the road has gone and the Rooks are homeless: I don’t know where they’ve moved to but I’m putting out lots of food for them. I don’t think people understand how difficult it was (and still is) for Northern Power to get anywhere with so many trees down. We spoke to someone from Gretna Green today that said it wasn’t bad at all there. It makes me realise what it must be like living in a real war zone.

It’s kind of bizarre here. In some places huge deciduous trees have come down and you can see where they’ve been sawn up and moved away from roads. In other places, almost entire areas of pine woodland have fallen and the trunks are all laid parallel to each other, almost like matchsticks, it’s so precise.

One rural house I saw will have a completely different view from now on, and probably a lot more light as the woods next to it have just been flattened, apart from a few tatty specimens at the edges.

I remember when an enormous swathe of trees on a hillside not far from here was cut down - people were worried there might be a landslide.

It was replanted and the new trees have grown quite quickly so ? they will re-forest in your areas.

MayBee70

A state of emergency was only announced a day or so ago!

It should have happened much earlier.
I expect the Army was ready for the call

Funnily enough, there has been a lot of harvesting of the managed forests round here in recent years. The hillside opposite us used to be like the Deep Dark Woods. They’ve cut down most of the trees and you can now see daylight through it.

Another smallish area was harvested a couple of years ago and the following spring the hillside was covered in the most glorious display of foxgloves I’ve ever seen. ? ? ?

Yes, I'm presuming these are managed forests but the people living beneath them were quite worried.
There have been landslides but thankfully not there so far.

This has reminded me to get a solar/wind up radio - of the sturdy, camping, outdoor type. At least, I can always charge my phone on one.

There is a reason why rural properties have stoves of all kinds.

We have not been without electrcity but a couple of years ago we were without gas for a week in the November , followed by a winter of intermittent gas outages.

We were so glad we had a wood-burning stove. It kept us and the house warm and we put a hob kettle on the top and cooked meals on the top in a cast iron casserole. However we did have electricity for all other uses, but we have in the past had frequent power cuts and again survived in relative comfort because we had the stove.

I think I recall the gas problems you had, Monica.

Part of the issue people in this area had was that there was no water, either. It’s almost impossible to live without both power and water, unless you have a private eater supply. Even then, the authorities were telling people to boil it first, which if you have no power or stove can’t be done. The water company supplied bottled water from a depot but without internet/phones, you wouldn’t have known that and in any case, it was gone within minutes as it’s hard to supply an entire town.

I think councils etc are really going to have to think hard about how we can cope better with these occurrences in future.