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Harry’s ‘pop’ at Charles

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Bluebellwould Mon 06-Dec-21 11:46:10

Harry has apparently had another pop at his dad this time regarding the payment for honours debacle. Harry seems to keep on attacking Charles and I wondered if there might be a particular reason for this. In all of the multitudinous reports on their estrangement I haven’t seen anyone wondering if H is doing this because he believes/knows Charles is not his dad. I am not suggesting that is true but it may be his ‘truth’ as others have put it. Perhaps it would go some way to explain his seeming lack of belonging. Just musing on a grey day, please feel free to wade in or not as the case maybe.

mokryna Mon 06-Dec-21 13:28:34

I am waiting impatiently for my 6th grandchild (not in the near future).
I often wonder what colour eyes they will have. Oh dear is that wrong? I really don’t know know..

Alegrias1 Mon 06-Dec-21 13:26:10

SueDonim

My truth is that I get all my news about the Sussexes from GN because I don’t seem to read about it anywhere else. grin

But how do you manage that SueDonim? They're everywhere, everywhere you look. shock

Oh no, wait.... wink

grannysyb Mon 06-Dec-21 13:26:08

I know a black doctor with a white wife with two adopted mixed race children. When they were adopting the second child, the social worker offered a colour chart! He found it quite funny, and as he said you can't tell what colour mixed race children will be. IMO asking what colours child will be is no different from asking what colour eyes or hair will be.

maddyone Mon 06-Dec-21 13:24:32

trisher it’s not the walking away from his family that’s the issue, for me anyway, it’s the fact that he won’t be quiet.

SueDonim Mon 06-Dec-21 13:22:08

My truth is that I get all my news about the Sussexes from GN because I don’t seem to read about it anywhere else. grin

Anniebach Mon 06-Dec-21 13:21:25

trisher Harry accepted £50,000 from the same man

maddyone Mon 06-Dec-21 13:21:06

Alegrias yes, your response made giggle too. I know it’s only who he’s descended from is the issue grin
Just want him to shut up.

henetha Mon 06-Dec-21 13:20:59

grin grin grin alegrias1

Alegrias1 Mon 06-Dec-21 13:14:10

I think he's working for Boris.

Whenever Boris wants to divert attention from his latest attack on democracy, he gets Harry to say something pretty innocuous that takes up column inches in the red tops and gets all the royalists and traditionalists angry, so that Boris's work on his project to end democracy in the UK slips through almost unnoticed.

This is my truth. ?

SueDonim Mon 06-Dec-21 13:10:47

If Prince Harry is concerned about his ancestry, he could take a DNA test for a few quid and find out one way or another. Of course, if it transpired that he isn’t Charles’s son then he’d have to give up all his rights and privileges, so maybe he needs to be careful of what he wishes for.

Fwiw, which is precisely nothing, grin I think he is Charles’s son. I saw a photo of Prince Philip as a young man and Harry is his double.

Casdon Mon 06-Dec-21 13:09:53

Is he being castigated because he walked away from the institution though, or because he is constantly seeking publicity and/or the money that goes with it?

Kamiso Mon 06-Dec-21 13:08:50

Grany

Recently Prince Charles was also embroiled in cash for access allegations, while he and his family remain protected by layers of official secrecy.

"There needs to be complete transparency for royal lobbying and royal finances, because at the moment we have no idea what influence Andrew, Charles or William are having on governments and on whose behalf."

"Royals have unique access to the highest levels of government here and abroad, as well as complete secrecy surrounding what they do and say behind closed doors."

"There needs to be an urgent investigation into royal lobbying and cash for access, starting with Prince Andrew."

"And we need an overhaul of freedom of information laws so people can find out what the royals are saying to ministers, and on whose behalf."

Charles wasn’t embroiled! It was one of his advisors who has now been dismissed.

Do you spread unfounded malicious gossip about your neighbours as well?

trisher Mon 06-Dec-21 13:05:23

Lot's of sons have a go at their fathers. In this case it seems Harry is justified. Perhaps he's just drawing attention to the fact that the RF do this whole duty/honour/service thing whilst they are simply using their status for their own ends. It must be pretty awful to be the one castigated all the time because you chose to walk away from a corrupt self serving institution, you know is rotten, and be blamed for doing it.

Alegrias1 Mon 06-Dec-21 12:59:58

Sorry maddyone but that made me laugh. The only reason anybody has any interest in him at all is because of who he is descended from. grin

maddyone Mon 06-Dec-21 12:54:10

I don’t care who he’s descended from, as I said earlier, I just want him to be quiet. It strikes me he’s something of an attention seeker. Why does he think we’re all interested or even care about his upbringing? There are lots of children who have a terrible childhood. Think about little Arthur. Harry was privileged and loved. He has little to complain about in my opinion.

henetha Mon 06-Dec-21 12:50:22

Harry needs to do two things to redeem himself in my eyes. .(not that he cares a jot about my opinion of course).
One is to shut up, stop spitting bile at his family and just be quiet.
The second is to get a job. A proper job. Any job suited to his talent that pays reasonably well. ~With real working hours.
I have always seriously believed that he is Charles' son .There are certain resemblances, and the red hair is from his mother's family.
As for Charles' or anybody else, wondering what colour the baby's skin would be. Well, isn't that just human? It doesn't mean racism is behind it. I myself wondered the same thing in a normal, human curiosity way. And I am not racist.

Grannybags Mon 06-Dec-21 12:46:22

Ghosh MerylStreep Those photos are amazing!

eazybee Mon 06-Dec-21 12:44:11

I think Charles is his father and Harry is just continuing the Hanoverian tradition of falling out with his parent.
In view of his mother's unnecessarily frank admissions, do you believe his paternity hasn't been checked out, unofficially of course.

Alegrias1 Mon 06-Dec-21 12:43:40

Elizabeth II is descended from Mary Tudor, who was married to James IV of Scotland and was also Henry VIII's sister.

Genetic link.

lavenderzen Mon 06-Dec-21 12:43:23

I always used to love Harry. It is so sad to read these things.

Something is eating away at him, and none of us know what it is. If he felt differently treated as a child that is how he feels and nothing will change that, whether that is unfounded or not. I did read somewhere that Charles was a very distant father. Harry misses his mum and I feel sorry about that.

I think there are a lot of things that happen in the Royal household none of us know about. Is it a warm and loving place, I doubt it.

AGAA4 Mon 06-Dec-21 12:42:09

Much as I don't like like Harry I don't think there should be conjecture about who his father was ...or wasn't.
As it's nearly Christmas I'm wishing on a star that Harry and Meghan will stop popping up on the news. Some of us have had enough of these two.

Grany Mon 06-Dec-21 12:42:08

Recently Prince Charles was also embroiled in cash for access allegations, while he and his family remain protected by layers of official secrecy.

"There needs to be complete transparency for royal lobbying and royal finances, because at the moment we have no idea what influence Andrew, Charles or William are having on governments and on whose behalf."

"Royals have unique access to the highest levels of government here and abroad, as well as complete secrecy surrounding what they do and say behind closed doors."

"There needs to be an urgent investigation into royal lobbying and cash for access, starting with Prince Andrew."

"And we need an overhaul of freedom of information laws so people can find out what the royals are saying to ministers, and on whose behalf."

MerylStreep Mon 06-Dec-21 12:40:52

There is no genetic link from Henry V111 to our queen.

Sparklefizz Mon 06-Dec-21 12:39:48

MerylStreep My goodness! Yesssss!

Sparklefizz Mon 06-Dec-21 12:38:47

It's only his red hair that makes people doubt his parentage, thinking of James Hewitt, but firstly Hewitt didn't come on the scene until Harry was about 2 years old, and secondly, has no one noticed that 2 of Diana's sisters have red hair? Harry as a child was the spitting image of one of Diana's sister's sons, even down to the shape of his nose.