Diana and Charles Engagement

Anniebach

One thing which I have never believed is Diana’s claim as she walked down the aisle on her wedding day she saw Camilla, 3,500guests and she saw Camilla among them,

When I googled Anna Wallace and read what was said in the
Channel 5 programme , Paul Burrell said Diana told him !

Well presumably her eyes did fall on some people as she walked up and down the aisle. No real reason why Camilla wouldn't have been one of them I suppose.

I quoted Paul Burrell not Diana

So are we not to believe a word that Diana said?

One thing which I have never believed is Diana’s claim as she walked down the aisle on her wedding day she saw Camilla, 3,500guests and she saw Camilla among them,

When I googled Anna Wallace and read what was said in the
Channel 5 programme , Paul Burrell said Diana told him !

Hopefully things will have changed a lot by the time George is thinking of marriage. Could you imagine Charles having being allowed marry somebody like Kate who had no aristocratic blood, and was from a firmly middle class background?

I think the public have changed their attitude towards royal marriages having seen the Charles and Diana fiasco. I imagine the days of heirs to the throne having to marry blue blooded women are over.

I just googled Anna Wallace, a book by Penny Junor ,
Channel 5 programme, one who was interviewed was Paul Burrell

I Googled this story and sure enough there are several reports of Charles being set up with his second cousin only to be refused. The RF needed an heir and a spare so he had to get on with it. Diana’s close connection with the family was a definite plus. What a pity she was not going to toe the party line and put up with the Royal way of living a life. Still, all is well with the present line of succession. William and Catherine are doing it by the book. Nothing to see there.
My heart goes out to little George who is growing up to a life that will depend on public approval of his romantic choices. Of course, the younger generation might care not a jot in the way that our generation does. One can but hope.

Anna Wallace was another one. Apparently she refused to play second fiddle to Camilla!

Anniebach

Depends on the interview, verbally plunging a knife interview
No.

They must have given interviews else how would it be known ?

There was a documentary on television a year or so ago and they named several women who had turned him down.

I have asked Mr Google. He tells me that Mountbatten’s granddaughter, Amanda Knatchbull was suggested and he wrote to her parents expressing interest but it was felt better to wait as she was only 16 (a pattern here?). He proposed to her after Mountbatten was killed but she turned him down.

Depends on the interview, verbally plunging a knife interview
No.

They must have given interviews else how would it be known ?

Maybe they didn’t do interviews (which you don’t approve of I think ?)

I have never the interviews with the several women who turned
down Charles marriage proposal, who were they ?

The eminence gris behind the marriage was the Queen mother, or to be more precise, Ruth, Lady Fermoy, Diana's grandmother and an intimate friend of the QM.

Yes it was a disaster, but I think a lot of the people involved in pushing and encouaging the marriage should have been ashamed of themselves.

Charles had proposed to several other women, who had all said no. Then this naive starry eyed teenager with no responsible parents asking awkward questions wanders into his life.
The royal family couldn't snap her up fast enough. And her own father was so thrilled at the idea of one of his grandchildren being a future king or queen that his daughter's welfare didn't even seem to cross his mind.

It wasn't just an unfortunate tragedy that no one could have foreseen. Some people just didn't bother to think too deeply about their actions.

‘Don’t do it Di’. Said the badge we feminists wore - we knew it was a disaster

With hindsight a disaster

Were we in the 18th century in the 1980s?

It is so sad this happened in the late part of the 20th century, when the world was more "civilized"

It was a disaster from the very beginning but hey! Royalty! Traditions! Fairy tale! (Sarcasm on with this last sentence only)

I’m sure you’re right trisher but nonetheless despite all the tests known to man, it’s impossible to predict with 100% certainty that anyone would be able to have a child, and that includes Charles as well as Diana.

So at that time the results could be ‘more likely fertile’

maddyone

I should add that therefore it was impossible to be able to predict that Diana would be able to have children, or indeed, if Charles would be able to have children.

I bet all the fertility tests possible at the time were done befoe the engagement was announced though. You couldn't be certain they were fertile but you could ensure there was more likelihood they were

Summerlove, you owe Anniebach an apology for your rudeness.
You choose to disbelieve what she says on no evidence whatsoever, you make a sweeping statement concerning power differentials and age, again with no evidence, and end with a comment that the fact she refuses to see it (what?) is telling.
You cannot support your own argument as it is based on your opinion, to which you are entitled, but you won't accept that people have an equal right to disagree with you.

And of course chatting about a particular mindset isnt at all unpleasant.

Germanshepherdsmum

What a nasty post to annie, summerlove. Totally unwarranted nastiness. You owe her an apology.

For having an opinion?

No thank you

Parsley3

I don’t think that comparing one’s personal experience of marriage and relationships with the topic under discussion is useful. Charles needed an heir and he got one soon after marriage. The Royal Family is very invested in the line of succession. I will try to find the photo that shows this.

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