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The Psychology of Mr Johnson: Why does he do as he does?

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FannyCornforth Mon 13-Dec-21 17:16:40

Hello!
What do you think?
My theory (this afternoon, that is) is that Johnson perceived his father as ‘The King of the World’, and that he is trapped in a cycle of emulation.
Poor bloke, and poor UK

JaneJudge Tue 14-Dec-21 20:37:39

flump, hadn't he also gone to his own holiday home? (Stanley that is)

Wrt the thread, lots of people have trauma early in their lives, they aren't all narcissistic

luluaugust Tue 14-Dec-21 15:09:31

Nicely put flump, Boris is a big ideas man who seems to be hopeless with the small details so things are left to other people to sort out. Here the consequences of the call to get a booster jab, not a bad thing in itself, has resulted in the local pharmacist who has been doing a steady job being closed today because he has run out and is waiting for a delivery.

flump Tue 14-Dec-21 14:59:48

It's also the assumption they have that, because one wants something, it will, of course, happen and all will be fine with no consequences.

A little example:- Stanley was on the series 'Celebrity Hunted' with his young friend Georgia Topolo (sp?) and wanted to get cash from an atm. She warned him they would be traced because of the tech that the 'hunters' had available to them. He didn't believe this and said it would be alright. Within a couple of days they were captured!

Allsorts Tue 14-Dec-21 14:00:47

Sorry about that, wrong forum.
I feel sorry for those bought up as Boris was, I couldn’t believe how that family functioned. Unfortunately, he seems s to have followed his fathers path with his relationships, you have to wonder how his children by previous wives feel. Perhaps with Carrie he will have what he has been looking for, somehow I doubt it.
Not come from a family like his, but better to be poor with love than rich and neglected. It must damage you for life.

Smileless2012 Tue 14-Dec-21 10:55:23

That's very interesting Fanny, thanks for responding smile.

FannyCornforth Tue 14-Dec-21 09:11:02

Allsorts have you posted on the right thread?
Btw, I agree with your views smile

Allsorts Tue 14-Dec-21 08:42:53

The scientific evidence has been followed all the way through.The Health Service and volunteers have ensured we get our vaccinations. The evidence is that Covid is transmitted through the air and vaccinations helps prevent it or at least getting it so that it ends your life, there will be exceptions if course. What more do you want to know. I had unfortunately, to use the train yesterday, most of the people were not wearing masks. There are anti vaxers, could be carriers mixing freely. Are we supposed to have a police state?
Tell me who knows better than the scientists we have please, I would like to know.

Whitewavemark2 Tue 14-Dec-21 08:21:34

Iam64

Apologies for going off on one and not answering the question. I believe Mr J behaves as he does because he had an emotionally abusive childhood. Warring parents, macho, arrogant, emotionally unavailable father who ‘accidentally’ broke his wife’s nose. A mother who was depressed, emotionally unavailable then - off to the schools that have provided the bulk of our parliamentarians and ‘ruling classes’. A bit like Borsalino really, not designed to turn our secure individuals ….

Yes that is exactly what I would have said.

His character is badly flawed.

Galaxy Tue 14-Dec-21 08:10:58

I agree, I am often conflicted about Johnson as I sometimes feel pity, it's a cycle of damage.

FannyCornforth Tue 14-Dec-21 02:20:16

Smileless2012

Can you give some detail as to how you arrived at your theory Fanny?

I’ve been very ‘interested’ in Johnson ever since he has been a public figure.

I’ve mentioned this before on here; I cried on the morning of the Referendum result because I was so scared that he would become PM.

The books I’ve read about him are Tom Bowers’ biography, and the brilliant ‘The Assault on Truth’ by Peter Oborne.

Johnson had an appalling childhood, mainly due to Stanley, and I think that he is deeply damaged.

I keep meaning to read a book called ‘Sad Little Men’ about the boarding school system and why it’s so unwise to have the products of such a system in positions of power; but I’m sure that it won’t exactly be an enjoyable read.

I realise that my title and op are a bit garbled!
I pressed ‘post’ before I went back to edit it, like I usually do.
Even that sentence is a bit garbled!

Bridgeit Mon 13-Dec-21 23:19:57

It’s a combination of personality, circumstances, genes, opportunity , intelligence, common sense …… just like baking a cake really , one hopes it will rise & shine but sadly many
sink in the middle !

MayBee70 Mon 13-Dec-21 23:14:30

Why do some people want power? Beats me. It’s like people having billions of pounds when they could do so much good with the money. Or have less and have a nice quiet life.

Bridgeit Mon 13-Dec-21 23:10:45

The Short answer to … why does he do as he does…. Is that
he is who is……. Which is what we all are…..

Calistemon Mon 13-Dec-21 22:49:56

I am not a psychiatrist so will not attempt a diagnosis.

Galaxy Mon 13-Dec-21 22:08:36

But Johnson isn't lucky, despite all of that, a damaged man. Not lucky at all.

Urmstongran Mon 13-Dec-21 22:04:23

I don’t think it’s the education they had (which helps - teacher to pupil ratio being so much better, prep after classes ensures homework is done, not stuffed in a school bag on the bus on the way home then ignored) that gives the sense of entitlement. It’s MONEY. Just having it opens doors. Gives confidence.

Hobbies, glamorous holidays, gorgeous houses, home help, private medical care - little or no ‘our NHS’ for these families, nepotism, the ‘right’ contacts. An endless list of privilege. Lucky buggers.

A different world indeed to that which most of us inhabit.

M0nica Mon 13-Dec-21 21:25:14

I have always considered that Boris has ADHD. The disorganisation, the chaos and untidiness and the restlessness are all signs of it. I almost certainly have it myself, so recognise a lot of the signs.

Why does everyone always assume private education means boarding schoo?. Most private schools are day schools, including highly rated ones like Westminster. In other schools the children board week days only.

There will always be a need for boarding schools for children of people in the forces, diplomatic service and some professions because it reqquires constant changes of location.

My father was in the army. I went to 8 primary schools, but only 2 secondary schools. This gave me the continuity to take all my exams while at the same school and get to university. If I had continued to stay at dayschool and follow the flag, I would have changed schools and country half way through the second year of my A levels.

Grandmagrim Mon 13-Dec-21 20:39:51

I genuinely believe he suffers from crippling cowardice. He is savvy enough to dress like he is a harmless oaf -a ruse to detract from his cut throat determination to get what he wanted. Now he has it he is too cowardly to just be honest.

GagaJo Mon 13-Dec-21 19:28:31

IMO he is a typical over entitled, upper class, spoiled brat. His schools, university, family and friends have led him to a massive, over inflated sense of greatness, backed by an enormous feeling of entitlement.

Rules (Covid), standards (how well he does his job), morals (lying, cheating adultery) don't apply to him. They're for the plebs (us). He's a 'Great' man.

MayBee70 Mon 13-Dec-21 19:12:13

Why do the electorate seem to think that men that are a product of the public school system have enough knowledge of ordinary peoples lives to govern them? I know some people on here have been to boarding school and been happy there but what effect does it have on a child to be sent away from home at a young age and been subjected to bullying etc?

Iam64 Mon 13-Dec-21 19:04:13

Apologies for going off on one and not answering the question. I believe Mr J behaves as he does because he had an emotionally abusive childhood. Warring parents, macho, arrogant, emotionally unavailable father who ‘accidentally’ broke his wife’s nose. A mother who was depressed, emotionally unavailable then - off to the schools that have provided the bulk of our parliamentarians and ‘ruling classes’. A bit like Borsalino really, not designed to turn our secure individuals ….

Iam64 Mon 13-Dec-21 18:59:12

I’m unhappy with Johnson and his government. I try not to be cynical but, when he announced we could/should all do LFT, which were readily available - I suspected a shortage. Sure enough, our great local pharmacy apologised today ‘sorry, there’s a National shortage’.
My consultant advised I ask any gathering id be joining over Christmas to LFT the day before….

My previous Labour MP was a local man, who still lived in the constituency, he was visible in local shops, libraries, replied to every letter etc. He lost to a Tory who lives 200 miles away, never, ever replies to letters. I wish I believed he has the remotest interest in our poor former mill town but I don’t.
Despite my grumbles, I don’t believe David Amess was a rarity amongst human beings. I believe most of us care about each other - tho I don’t include Johnson in that

EllanVannin Mon 13-Dec-21 18:48:09

I know no other MP who has put themselves out for their constituents. Angela Eagle is the only other one that I know who had time for her constituents and even myself by letter or visit and I wasn't even " on her side " but it didn't matter to her.

EllanVannin Mon 13-Dec-21 18:43:22

In fact, David Amess was a rarity amongst humans in general !

EllanVannin Mon 13-Dec-21 18:41:54

Yes I remember that lovely man Germanshepherdsmum, a rarity amongst politicians.

I wonder how many of them give their constituents a knock now and again ? Which I was also making reference to, considering that it's we the public who put them where they are.
Do they actually care ?