Patriotism - what do you think about it ?

Forsythia

That’s really interesting. Then perhaps we English should also have our own song, in the interests of fairness.

Good idea

The Welsh have got songs and an anthem

Nothing wrong being proud of your own achievements but being a particular nationality is not an achievement. It’s all this superiority implications that come with being proud of a particular nationality that can lead to unpleasantness.

There are plenty of English songs if you want one.

vegansrock

Nothing wrong being proud of your own achievements but being a particular nationality is not an achievement. It’s all this superiority implications that come with being proud of a particular nationality that can lead to unpleasantness.

But that doesn't make sense because you said the French are proud of their scenery, beaches, weather etc. That has nothing to do with their own individual achievements. It is rightly a feeling of national pride with no superiority attached, just how it is and forever will be.

vegansrock

There are plenty of English songs if you want one.

Yes, but they're not as good

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From Quora

Why do the Brits say the phrase "God save the Queen" (e.g, in the anthem)? Is the Queen in danger? What does she need saving from?
Billy Connolly did a funny routine about this, stating that he was unaware that the Queen was, in fact, in danger. However, if she was then he was sure that God was the very man to save her. He moved on to the issue of the anthem itself, which is roundly recognised as a terrible dirge. Connolly felt it was impacting our performance at international sporting events and suggested that it should immediately be replaced with the theme music from the BBC radio series, The Archers.

What does she need saving from?

I would have thought that was obvious!
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Grany your post makes it quite clear.??

Grany

That made me laugh

SIR William Connolly CBE

Anniebach

SIR William Connolly CBE

Yes!

Joined the elite ?

One of my favourite Connolly jokes Grany

School was celebrating some particular Royal occasion. My young grandson rushed in excitedly from school and said to his atheist mum "Mummy, mummy you must believe in God now because he saved our Queen"!

Yes Callistemon Commander of the British Empire

"God save the King" was written on the equivalent of the back of a fag packet during the Civil War. Perhaps it is time we had a song that has had a bit more thought to it.

The National Anthem covers the four countries, assume changing it would have to be agreed by the four

If Patriotism means being proud of your country then that’s fine and to be encouraged.
If it means that you think your country is better than elsewhere that is bad, even worse is using patriotism to achieve a dubious goal