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Patriotism - what do you think about it ?

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Anniebach Mon 20-Dec-21 16:54:36

We don’t have a problem with flying our flag in Wales

Sparklefizz Mon 20-Dec-21 16:54:35

I agree Sarnia and Chestnut.

Chestnut Mon 20-Dec-21 16:43:53

I agree Sarnia and I'd like to see a big deal made of St George's Day with events and festivals. Instead we hear more about St Patrick's Day!

Sarnia Mon 20-Dec-21 16:34:02

I consider patriotism to be a love and pride for our country. I would like to see children sing our National Anthem each day in school. I wonder how many of them even know the words? I would like to see the Union Jack and the 4 nations flags flown more often. Instead we seem to be a country who almost apologises for who we are. Frightened to use the word Christmas because it might offend other religions, kow-towing to the woke brigade on our history and culture. I am British and proud of it.

EllanVannin Mon 20-Dec-21 16:17:37

The patriotism in Australia is a joy to see, even their anthem, Advance Australia Fair, is belted out with pride. I love it.

Franbern Mon 20-Dec-21 15:39:07

I can take pride in what I achieve - in what my children and g.children achieve. Never really understood how anyone can just feel proud of an accident of birth..

When I was very involved in sport, I would support and be proud of achievements by clubs, etc in which I had involvement. Loved 2012 Olympics and was justifyably proud of how GB had risen to the challenge of staging these games so very successfully in every aspect/

Flags and patriosm seems just to be excuse for hatred.

dragonfly46 Mon 20-Dec-21 15:38:06

I envy people who live in countries they are proud of eg the US, the Netherlands.
All we Brits do is run our country down.

Jackiest Mon 20-Dec-21 15:32:44

I have missed something but I can not think of any situation where patriotism is morally necessary

boat Mon 20-Dec-21 14:58:21

Caleo I don't understand your post.

Why is patriotism morally necessary and what is it not sufficient for?

Caleo Mon 20-Dec-21 14:50:57

Patriotism is morally necessary, but is not sufficient.

Jackiest Mon 20-Dec-21 14:28:58

Patriotism easily becomes discrimination and can blind you to the faults in your nation.

AmberSpyglass Mon 20-Dec-21 14:22:07

Loathsome. Borders are arbitrary, cultures shift. Patriotism is an easy slide into xenophobia, racism and fascism.

Mollygo Mon 20-Dec-21 14:18:50

Namsnanny I thought patriotism is when you feel proud of your country and it isn’t compulsory.
What you mention about the Chinese version is scary and not patriotism.

Namsnanny Mon 20-Dec-21 14:14:10

As you mentioned Hong Kong, I wouldnt like the Chinese version of it. Face recognition cameras, public shaming, fines etc.

M0nica Mon 20-Dec-21 14:08:48

Depends on the interpretation of what is patriotism and that is not the same everywhere.

nanna8 Mon 20-Dec-21 12:23:46

Not sure whether or not this is a good thing these days.I have always felt fairly patriotic towards both Australia and the UK (though in sport it is always Australia I have to admit!). I have friends born in many different parts of the world originally, as do probably the majority of people who live here. I have heard first hand how sometimes patriotism can morph into some scary situations ( thinking of a Chinese friend who cannot go back to Hong Kong).