Pins or nappi nippas ?

Should have proof read - out not pit

In 1960 we weren't even allowed pit of bed for the first 48hrs! Bed pans and bed baths, oh how I longed for a soothing soak in the bath.
For some reason enemas were routine, and stitches were almost more usual than not - you scarcely heard of someone avoiding them. It wasn't all sweetness and light like the TV Call the Midwife.
But I digress. I think it was the sheer physical work of soaking and boil washing terries that burger us on to get the babies 'dry', plus the constant fight against nappy rash.
Nappy nippers sound amazing, I wish we'd had them.
(I wonder why we were never taught the folding system).

Yes it was routinely ten days in hospital for a first baby here in 1976 and then a two day stay for any thereafter.

Crumbs re 10 days in hosp in 1970, or was this for a C section, or not in the UK? 48 hrs for me, and I've never heard of the folding method. How can nappy pins suddenly be so wrong and dangerous when they were used for generations without any outcry?

Well done for looking after your grandchild you are being very supportive. I helped look after my grandchildren for over two years. We used pull-ups there is nothing easier to use and quicker to put on and get off.
I used the folded nappy method when I had my own children. I had them both potty trained as soon as they were on their feet. They went to preschool nursery and would not have been accepted unless they were toilet trained.

I remember having to fold nappies instead of using pins in hospital but I cannot for the life of me remember how it stayed secure.

And hear am I shocked, I tell you SHOCKED that you always used nappy pins.

Back in 1970 when I produced DD1 we were kept in hospital for 10 days. During this time we were taught how to fit terry square nappies by folding and tucking - not a safety pin in sight. My DGC were also in terry nappies and I showed their Mums the technique which they soon mastered.

I would definitely recommend nappi nippas ,i use them on my 2 year old DGS much easier to use than pins ,good luck

Well done for taking on the care of your DGS, Liamsnana

I've never heard of these nappi nippas and always used nappy safety pins (useful afterwards, as Baggs says, especially for holding knitting or crochet).

Summer is the best time but I'm not sure if he goes to nursery - will they accept a toddler who is not trained?

Will the Council take pullups as clinical waste where they are disposed of properly? They might be easier if you want to train him now.
It just takes loads of patience and persistence, some little ones are eager to try and pleased with themselves when they succeed.
Others can be awkward so best to leave it until they are happy t try.

Is it just me or are a lot of threads just now full of people being very judgemental and condescending to those who have a different point of view?

I think you have a point!
There are guaranteed minefields such as
Potty training
Demand feeding vs scheduled feeding
Breast vs bottle
Cream before jam or vice versa on scones
Tea/supper/dinner
and no doubt many more which seem to be sure to kick things off!
And that’s not counting Boris
Or Brexit!

Liamsnana - your grandson is lucky to have you as his Nana. I don’t know anything about nappinippas, so can’t help there, sorry x

DD1 has taught P1 for 12 years and never once had a child start school in nappies.
Is it just me or are a lot of threads just now full of people being very judgemental and condescending to those who have a different point of view?

This has always been a bit of an emotive issue, hasn’t it, with opinions firmly in one camp or the other.

I believe it was fashionable at one time to hold a baby over the potty at regular intervals virtually from birth!
That’s clearly nonsense, but speaking generally I do wonder how we have now got to the times when, never mind still in nappies at three, primary school teachers are reporting five year olds turning up in them ?

Liamsnanna - I'd suggest you stick with nappy pins for now as they work for you. I've seen these Nappi Nippas but not sure I'd trust them for an older child.

With regard to the training issue, from your other thread, I appreciate you don't want to cause any stress in his life for now, and others have suggested leaving it till warmer weather. However, having a potty in bathroom, and leaving nappy off for a short time after a bath won't cause any stress and he might just give the potty a try. My boys often used to pee as soon as I put their feet in the water (some kind of reflex reaction - helped by sound of running tap) and I would grap the potty and hold it in front of them. It didn't mean they got trained immediately, but at least gave them the idea.

Well done with your care for grandson

Mine where all toilet trained by the time they where either 2 or just after they all wore terry nappies and did not like the feeling of wetness on their skin so during the day they wore cotton pants which could be changed as necessary they soon got the idea, they also had to be dry by the time they went to nursery at 3yrs.I still have 2 x blue & 2 x pink nappy pins in my sewing box.

Bluebelle I agree with you although it’s not a popular attitude ! One of GS was a “wait until he’s old enough” and was very slow to be trained . My other GS’s mum just took his nappy off pretty much as he turned 2 and he was sorted in no time.

Although I do know that OP grandchild has had disruption in his little life so it’s a different case. Plus I take my hat off to her for taking on his care.

I don’t think leaving it till they are older does speed up potty training I believe our kids were all trained early because we were probably fed up with soaking and washing dirty nappies in the days before disposables and washing machines ( well I didn’t have a washing machine, don’t know about you)
I stood behind a lady with an about 3 year old all beautifully dressed and the lady had a designer bag on her shoulder and the little one stunk of poo
Why ever not train them at a more reasonable age I know teachers who say some kids (not disabled) go to school in nappies (“they ll do it when they are ready”)
I wouldn’t even use pull ups but proper little pants they like to be grown up and they don’t like dirtying proper pants, pull ups are too like nappies
And no I m not hard hearted we just had fun bought them all sorts of pretty and fun pants and they were all well up for it and my grand kids too BUT I m not being judgemental if the little one has a medical problem Nexus there is nothing in the original post to suggest that is the case

When I was teaching, we occasionally had children starting school still in nappies. One child wouldn’t use the toilet unless mother was there. I don’t remember the outcome of these issues as I didn’t teach Early Years.

Well done too for using Terry nappies. I did for my first 4 children but by number 5 it was disposables from the beginning!

This child has obviously had a difficult start in life to not be cared for by his parents. Well done Liamsnana for bringing him up.. I agree with nexus' comments.

I love nappy pins. Such useful items. I still use them though not for nappies.

i had to laugh at some of the comments about wearing nappies at 3, you do not know anything about the child and why they still need a nappy at age three so why not just answer the question the person has asked and not show your shock and disgust at a child who may have problems and still need to wear a nappy.

I'm really shocked that a three year old is still in nappies. How uncomfortable!

I know that times have changed, with the convenience of disposables - but children haven't. My four were all out of nappies by the time they were two.

I’m sure leaving it until a child is a bit older speeds up potty training but haven’t times changed?

Mine, now in their 30s and 40s were all out of nappies long before their third birthday.
A couple of mornings a week they went to the local playgroup from three, and wouldn’t have been accepted if they were still in nappies.

I do accept that ideas around this change with each generation, but it still surprises me to learn that children still in nappies at three years old isn’t at all uncommon these days.

Although as you are going down the environmentally friendly route, it would be better to use them later when hopefully you will only need I pair per day.
MsOops used something similar to the nappy grippers you have seen, she never used disposable nappies, but she lived in London it was easy to leave the used nappies on her doorstep and the Nappy Fairies left clean ones, just like magic?