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Is marriage hard work?

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kittylester Wed 12-Jan-22 08:09:40

DD2 is supporting a good friend who is unhappy in her marriage. DD finds it frustrating that her friend keeps sweeping the problems under the carpet.

The friend's argument is that, unless one is very lucky, all marriages are hard work.

Is that true?

Talking it over with my daughters and my one co-habitting son, we agreed that it is hard work on occasions but in general it shouldn't be.

What do you think?

paddyann54 Wed 12-Jan-22 11:22:48

I've probably spent more time with my OH than most,we worked together for almost 2 years before we married ,one of those as a couple then for 46 years in our own businesses ,We have rarerly been apart for longer than a few hours.
We have very different natures,I'm very laid back ,nothing much annoys me,he was a fly off the handle ,throw a mug at a wall type in the beginning,not now or for a decade or more.
Its never dull around him and we laugh our wee socks off at some things that nobody else finds funny .He's my world and he says I'm his .We are very lucky ...or we chose well .

kittylester Wed 12-Jan-22 11:20:23

That is what i feel too but it's picking the right person, isn't it, Laura and aging together well.

And, marrying for the right reason.

EllanVannin Wed 12-Jan-22 11:16:43

I'm an oddity I think as I take things as they come whatever they might be. I don't think anything's hard work unless you make it so, but that's me.
Life is what you make it.

LauraNorderr Wed 12-Jan-22 11:11:05

We certainly haven’t traded freedom, independence, peace or silence, we have chosen to be together through life and share our freedom, our independence, our peace and our moments of silence.
We do many things together and many things separately, we laugh a lot, we disagree at times, we talk to each other, we make allowances, we compromise. We show each other love and respect.
None of it seems like hard work.

BBbevan Wed 12-Jan-22 10:43:12

Not if you choose the right person.

Sparklefizz Wed 12-Jan-22 10:41:34

Hetty58 endless carefree happy days

You are so lucky, Hetty. I don't think I've ever had "endless carefree happy days" even as a child, having grown up in a household where my parents argued and shouted constantly.

TerriBull Wed 12-Jan-22 10:24:41

Well the question posed is entirely subjective and depends on umpteen variables, the most important being do the two people in the marriage have enough of the right stuff to take them through life's path together. Once upon a time separation wasn't an option largely because of financial constraints and society's attitudes. Now I believe something in the order of 50% of relationships founder, maybe before they've reached that deeper stage that hopefully evolves in longer lived partnerships of contentment and an acceptance of each others foibles. I know of at least two married couples who have survived into a happier stage in later life, only due to the extreme tolerance of one of the partners in the marriage. Long lasting happy marriages are imo something to be lauded in this day and age of throw away everything. I think I was moved when I read about Jack Dromy's recent death because my gut feeling, and of course I can't know, but I imagine, that was a happy and long lived marriage sometimes couples exude that quietly, not in an over the top public declaration of love that so many well known faces put out there into the public domain these days. When I felt sad for Harriet Harman I guess I was feeling sad in projecting myself into that loss of a deeply loved partner.

Maybe we are shaped by our earliest experiences of marriage, which would be that of our parents. My parents were catholics so divorce wasn't something they would have contemplated, but the extreme tolerance of my mother was what carried them through and although my father , a difficult and irascible individual, appreciated her much towards the end of his life, most of their marriage he took her for granted. I think that from an early age I had a subliminal feeling that being taken for granted wasn't something I wanted from a relationship.

I think there has to be a lot more to underpin an initial attraction, kindness, humour, conversation, mutual appreciation, not having vastly differing attitudes to raising children or money and tolerance are all pretty important components to getting along. So to address the original point, are all marriage are hard work, well some will be and if they are too much in the way of the hard work variety then they probably won't last. Particularly as there will be the stresses of children, extended family, bereavements, money, working lives, where a mutual support has to be there. Ideally, though no they shouldn't be massively hard work, sometimes maybe, but for most of the time no, but again that's down to the person one marries and an ability on both sides to understand each other.

DiscoDancer1975 Wed 12-Jan-22 10:22:12

40 years this year, of ‘ being fortunate ‘

DiscoDancer1975 Wed 12-Jan-22 10:21:12

My husband said it depends who you’re married to. Apparently I’ve been really fortunate! ?

henetha Wed 12-Jan-22 10:05:03

My marriage was certainly hard work. And I'm glad I ended it. But I secretly envy people who are happily married.

eazybee Wed 12-Jan-22 10:02:48

Marriage can be hard work if it is the wrong couple or if there is outside interference.
Then there is the french (?) saying: there is one who loves and one who is loved.

Grannybags Wed 12-Jan-22 10:01:01

It's our Golden Wedding this year and yes it has been hard at times!

More good times than bad though. As my lovely Mum used to say "you have to swallow gimlets sometimes!" (and she didn't mean the cocktail...)

Nortsat Wed 12-Jan-22 09:58:33

Sometimes.

We have been together for 46 years. It’s not been perfect but it’s been good.
All relationships (with parents, siblings, partners and children) require work from time to time.

Would I do it all over again? Yes, I would … I might change some small things but overall it’s been very good.

Smileless2012 Wed 12-Jan-22 09:57:44

I would too kitty and peace hasn't been something I've traded over the 41 years of our marriage, our relationship gives me peace.

GagaJo Wed 12-Jan-22 09:57:09

Yes, kittylester, I think in a good relationship, that is the case. Sadly, my two main relationships haven't encompassed that. And I also think I am no longer capable of giving it so better for me to be (mostly) alone I think. Fortunately, I am a solitary type so it is my preferred condition.

Luckygirl3 Wed 12-Jan-22 09:53:49

Inevitably marriage has its challenges; and I am always surprised at the number of partnerships that do stay together rather than the number that fail. Many tick along with more sacrifices than is ideal.

It is a blueprint for living that is very entrenched, but I am sure that there are many other models of existence that can exist. However, I do not think that relationships just happen - all demand some level of hard work.

J52 Wed 12-Jan-22 09:51:14

Marriage is a journey, some people instinctively partner up with a soul mate with a strong probability of the relationship lasting.
However, on that journey there will be unexpected up and downs. How the partnership deals with those situations will determine its success.
I’ve been married 47 years, my DH sometimes drives me mad and I know I do the same, ( probably to a greater extent?) but these are small things. Big issues are discussed and solutions found. Neither of us are given to sulks or irrational arguing.

kittylester Wed 12-Jan-22 09:50:24

You trade freedom, independence, peace and silence for company, companionship and hopefully love. I pick the former, some pick the latter.

I would include mutual support in what one gains.

Galaxy Wed 12-Jan-22 09:45:54

I dont know kitty. It might not be sad for many. I agree with Lucca and Gagajo I think many people arent suited to marriage and I dont think that's necessarily sad. But obviously divorce itself is usually traumatic in one way or the other.

GagaJo Wed 12-Jan-22 09:36:13

I've only ever seen one relationship that I envied. All the other marriages and LTR's have not looked like anything I wanted from the outside.

There have been brief times in my life when I've envied others the security of marriage, but I can't bear being tied down. My current relationship is the nearest I've got a to a LTR but it is a very small part of my life. At the moment, I haven't spoken to him for over a week, no argument, just no contact.

Think my round-about answer is that surely most marriages are a trade-off. You trade freedom, independence, peace and silence for company, companionship and hopefully love. I pick the former, some pick the latter.

Kali2 Wed 12-Jan-22 09:30:53

Depends on the marriage and the participants surely.

But all marriages need give and take and effort, even the 'best' of them.

love0c Wed 12-Jan-22 09:29:08

I definitely think marriage is hard work. I also think the 'hard work' can come from managing family within it.

kittylester Wed 12-Jan-22 09:21:21

That's so sad Galaxy.

Galaxy Wed 12-Jan-22 09:17:13

I think she is probably right though, as the divorce statistics show.

Bonneygran Wed 12-Jan-22 09:07:16

I agree, Lucca; most marriages need some hard work. I think a varied diet of interests and projects help keep things sweet. Now that we are both retired DH is in the process of building a new garage and workshop and the old spare bedroom is now my craft room; a little quiet space, I hope!