Camilla-Queen Consort?

How could Diana who was allegedly betray get involved with Barry Mannakee whom she loved ,he had two children, Will
Carling, Oliver Hoare all married,

The only fact I know of is, Charles dated Diana’s sister. I have no other facts straight from the horses mouth.

SeaNain, how are you sure about that? Did you ask them if they are proud of their mother’s behaviour any more than you’d ask W&H to comment on their mother’s behaviour?

I know times and attitudes change, Diana had her flaws I know but, rather like Princess, Anne, people took to her, and she did an awful lot of good. As to Camilla, I struggle to see how a woman could be so cruel not only to her family, but to a young woman who we know was only used as a brood mare for an HEIR. I wish the crown could be handed down to William, not Charles. In the light of all the other stuff going on, for myself I can only conclude it may be time to retire the royals, sadly. Morality is taking a beating and its a shame. How one woman could do that to another is, beyond me. You'd have to be a selfish cold hearted individual who got what ever they wanted when they wanted it, regardless of your family. Camilla had kids. I'm sure they aren't proud of her behaviour.

I really don't mind, which I'm sure will put charles and camillas minds at rest.
I just find it distasteful to keep harping on about a woman who has been dead for who knows how long.

Kali2, I totally agree with you.

Ummm I would hope not, BUT? he spoke warmly about his father in various interviews before and just after his marriage, but now he hasn't a good word to say about him. If he wants these so called memoirs to sell, they are going to have to contain outrageous goings on else no one will be interested and the money won't flow. Mind you I have a sneaking feeling that the jubilee could overshadow the memoirs, not the other way round. We live in hope.

GagaJo

I was married longer, but I left. No affairs from either of us. Just unhappy marriage. I don't see any other way of viewing Diana. She was, as a long married friend of mine dubbed her, Rent-a-Womb.

And they were both victims of that system- and very unhappy.

I for on am glad Charles has found real happiness with Camilla, and have to problem at all with her becoming Queen consort.

lemsip

Prince Harry Could Unveil Secrets in His Book That Will Be Devastating for His Stepmother Camilla, Former Royal Employee Says............
Since stepping down as a senior royal in 2020, Prince Harry has spoken his truth of what life behind palace walls was like for him. But the Duke of Sussex isn’t done airing out secrets about Britain’s most family. The prince is releasing a memoir in 2022 and many royals are reportedly upset over what he will reveal, but perhaps none more than Camilla Parker Bowles.

Both Harry and William have been interviewed expressing warm feelings towards the Duchess of Cornwall. If I remember correctly, Harry said what a nice person she was. I can't see him disrespecting her in a book.

Jaberwok, attitudes have indeed changed and it’s a good thing. Divorce is always sad, but should not preclude the right to remarry and to live happily ever after.
If they had divorced and Diana had lived, would anyone on GN be criticising her choice of partner or dragging up her past?
Sadly, I think some would.

Diana had failings !

Charles and Camilla were married in a registry office.

You can't possibly compare the Duke and Duchess of Windsors situation with today as attitudes towards divorce 80 years ago were completely different. Divorce was terribly frowned upon in 1936 in all sections of society, friends , family were usually horrified and the perceived guilty party being ostracized was a surety. Until recently a divorced person couldn't remarry in church, my daughter was one of those people in the year 2001 and even though she had a no blame divorce, when she married again, registry office it was, with a church blessing afterwards . Edward couldn't possibly have married a twice divorced woman and remain king, still less head of the C of E. By the time we get to Charles and Camilla, attitudes thank goodness both secular and religious have changed. DH and I married in 1964 and have weathered the usual storms over 58 years and have no regrets, my daughter however did have storms that couldn't be weathered so she and he, called it day and are now happily with someone else . So, No, I don't disapprove of divorce, much better that than have a life of unhappiness.

Exactly, MissA. The sins of the mother, visited on the (2nd) son I guess.

No forgiveness. But for the future King, absolution.

Except when it comes to taking up Diana's failings, it seems.
We never seem to move on from that on here.

The abdication was back in 1936. Wallis Simpson had been divorced twice, at a time when divorce was much more unacceptable. It can’t really be compared with Charles and Diana’s divorce, 60 years later. Even in the RF, times have changed and moved on.

I'm not sure why it was bought up then, in a conversation about whether Charles and camilla had an affair.

Miss Adventure no, not being used to justify infidelity, in fact
not being ‘used’ .

I was married longer, but I left. No affairs from either of us. Just unhappy marriage. I don't see any other way of viewing Diana. She was, as a long married friend of mine dubbed her, Rent-a-Womb.

1 in 4 people have mental health issues, so a fair few, I would say.
In sickness and in health, though, are the vows, in case that is going to be used to justify infidelity.

Besides which, everyone would have known about Diana's issues, if they were all within the same circle growing up.

Gagajo glad you brought up marriages of those discussing this, I wonder how many who see Diana as a victim were sadly
victims of unfaithful husbands, I was only married 8 years so no problems. But how many have endured the pain that someone with mental health illness can cause

That makes it all the more messed up then, really.
Poor Diana.

I think it's very odd that GN members who are devotedly married and who believe firmly in the sanctity of marriage excuse the behaviour of C&C. To me (a divorcee), it isn't the actual marriage that makes it such as issue, it is the lack of fidelity, care and basic respect shown for Diana.

A friend of mine was treated that way by her ex. He'd carried on an affair for 4 years behind her back. She found out and it all blew up. Eventually, he married the woman he'd had the affair with. All of his friends and social circle edged him out. Not because the relationship with my friend ended. That's life. But because he treated her so appallingly.

I don't begrudge C&C their marriage, or their happy relationship. At all. But the royal family supposedly abide by certain rules. Edward & Mrs. S. didn't and he had abdicate and to leave the UK. H&M didn't and left. Yet C&C didn't and she still gets to become queen?

Possibly because in comparison to QE's other son, Charles is respectable?

I guess it's dumbing down and reducing their standards. Which will have a knock-on effect of reducing the efficacy of the crown. Not an issue for me. I'm not a monarchist. But either they abide by their own standards OR we have to admit that Edward should not have had to abdicate and Harry & Meghan can retain titles etc (state funded security anyone?) while living overseas.

The Spencer’s were part of the inner circle

Neither was charles any stranger to royal etiquette.