Camilla-Queen Consort?

No!

I know this is an RF thread and not a Scottish Independence thread so I'll make one quick comment then say no more

Some of you seem to be absolutely fascinated to the point of obsession with Scottish independence, and bring it up in as many situations as you can. Does it keep you awake at night?

I like the queen.
She is a grand old soul, and I'm sure at her age what she does is hard work.
It's the rest of them......

The same one as me Gsm!

Yes, I'd get rid of the RF as our source of hereditary Heads of State. Its not the middle ages any more.

I admire the Queen as a person and wish someone would tell the poor old soul that we don't all expect her to still be turning up to smile and wave and sign the laws of our land at the age of 95. And that maybe her vow to serve us her whole life could be well served by her handing over to somebody who would be able to ask her advice before she leaves us and who wouldn't have to deal with being the Head of State while mourning the death of his parent.

And once people start associating the abolition of the monarchy with Scottish Independence I appreciate that they have no idea what they are talking about.

I won’t answer you Alegrias. It’s pointless. I admire what the Queen does, you’d like to be rid of the RF. If the English were to be given a vote on Scottish independence tomorrow you know exactly which box I’d tick.

I doubt that very much.
I'm a carer, so I have a very good idea about hard work.

MissAdventure

I did bugger all when I was a civil servant, and got promoted, too!

Swapping with the RF might come as a shock to you then. You’d have to work hard to learn the job, read briefing and be knowledgeable and turn up and meet people whether you wanted to or not and know you were being criticised for everything you do, say or wear.

I'm afraid I don't share the queens sense of duty.my duty is to my family, so it would be nice if I could actually be around to see them in any meaningful sense.

The ones who flee get less peace than the ones who stay.
I can't imagine Kate with the heating blaring to dry her clothes, falling into bed at 11.30pm to go out and do 12 hours of hard physical work, with George waiting on the doorstep if she gets delayed.

Try having to do that at 95 MissA because it was promised many months ago that you would and you have a sense of duty. I can’t imagine being obliged to do that at 70.

Hard work? Not in the traditional sense.

However I wouldn't want their life. What a nightmare. No privacy. Life in a gilded cage.

One can understand why some members decide to flee.

Germanshepherdsmum

She swore to dedicate her whole life to us when she was 21. And that’s exactly what she’s done. Would you want to still have to work at 95?

What hard work does she do at age 95 please GSM? Maybe she could retire. Like everybody else?

Except David Attenborough of course. Last seen canoeing down the Amazon on BBC2 on a Sunday night.

Superciliously comparing our ‘working hard’ with others in different roles is like comparing GNs who are working hard caring for older parents or grandchildren or even having to work hard to cope with their own declining health negatively with the hard work done e.g. by teachers, nurses, gardeners or shop workers or McDonalds staff.

I've been comparing people who work outside in all weathers and can't give up because they need the money, with people for whom deciding which dress to wear is seen as hard work.

Its a different world.

I dont want to work now.
That's why I would be quite happy to smile and shake hands with people, wearing the clothes that someone else is responsible for laundering and pressing.

She swore to dedicate her whole life to us when she was 21. And that’s exactly what she’s done. Would you want to still have to work at 95?

I dont think anyone is tipping the queen out of bed in the morning and making her go to work.

No way would I want to swap. I’m retired. The Queen is still working at 95. It’s not a job until you reach retirement age, it’s a job for life. I’m extremely grateful to have retired and to be able to do what I want when I want.

I'd swap in an instant.
The scrutiny is a small price to pay for the privileges, as far as I'm concerned.

Ladyleftfieldlover, great post. I’d hate to be subject to that sort of scrutiny, comments and sometimes plain nastiness that is posted about her.
The Royals don’t do the work that many of us do. But then a lot of us don’t do work that others do but still know we work hard. Superciliously comparing our ‘working hard’ with others in different roles is like comparing GNs who are working hard caring for older parents or grandchildren or even having to work hard to cope with their own declining health negatively with the hard work done e.g. by teachers, nurses, gardeners or shop workers or McDonalds staff.

No, the a Royals don’t work hard for the reasons others have said. One thing I would find difficult though, if I was ever a Royal, would be the constant sniping and criticism from the, mainly red top, media. I read the Daily Mail,online occasionally, just to get an idea of what the extreme swivel eyed right wing are thinking. It seems to me that the Duchess of Cambridge can’t go out of her front door without someone commenting on her weight, her hair, the cost of every item of clothing and jewellery. Whether a particular item of clothing has been worn before. Jeez. No wonder Harry and Meghan fled!

I understand what you’re saying GSM and wouldn’t have even commented otherwise, but when posters were arguing about hard work, I’m afraid I had to have my say. I admire mothers who went back to work whilst their children were babies, but that’s not the point. I have absolutely no doubt whatsoever that you worked hard, but that’s not the point either. The point is that posters were either saying that the royals work hard or they don’t, and so I thought I would document all the day to day activities that the royals don’t have to do and that do take up a great deal of time. Despite what some may think, it is 100% relevant. If all domestic duties are removed, by definition, they have a lot more time than other people. In particular, people like GSM. I have no doubt that you worked very hard.

We're not talking about looking down on people. Were talking about people who work hard.

Daresay Grandma thought being a cleaner was pretty manageable after all the years spent gutting herring in the outdoors.

Daresay too that people have a different perspective on what hard work is.

A cleaner for just a couple of months Alegrias. I don’t look down on cleaners. It’s honest work. I was bloody grateful for the help as I had none from my husband.

Just the cleaner, what hardship.

My grandma was a cleaner. She was never bothered by people commenting on her figure either.