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Would you consider that large and medium-sized dogs should be phased out?

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mokryna Sat 22-Jan-22 15:13:39

Would you consider that large and medium-sized dogs should be phased out to protect planet as their carbon paw print is the same as an SUV car?
Mark Howell, a councillor for Bournemouth Christchurch and Poole Council claimed that pets consume 20% of the world’s meat and fish and this demand adds to pollution as it has to be transported.
This is not to have present pets euthanized but in the in future would you try to think about the size of the family pet?

Josieann Sun 23-Jan-22 12:32:17

I don't always like to compare with other countries but in Europe actually Romania, Poland, Germany and others have a higher % of dog ownership than we do in the UK. And big dogs at that! USA probably has the most.

Maggiemaybe Sun 23-Jan-22 12:32:54

It’s not either or though, is it? We’ve all surely got to look for ways to get our own carbon footprint down, and consider any suggestions, not dismiss them out of hand or scoff. If anyone suggested that motorists should choose smaller vehicles there’d be uproar about that as well.

Maggiemaybe Sun 23-Jan-22 12:33:44

Sorry, that was to EV’s post re cars.

Bridgeit Sun 23-Jan-22 12:39:30

Would this then be extended to Humans??

Nightsky2 Sun 23-Jan-22 12:48:56

Blondiescot

Chestnut - but once again, it all comes down to the owners. Who's to say that those dogs, in the hands of a loving and, more importantly, responsible, owner would not have been completely different. I've seen dogs which were traumatised and terrified - and probably appeared to be vicious because of that - transformed into loving family pets through long hard work and determination.

Exactly. We have all seen irresponsible owners and the way they treat their dogs. No bad dogs just idiots who can’t be bothered to train their dogs properly.

I have been absolutely amazed at the number of dogs I now see compared to before lockdown. The good thing about this explosion in dog ownership is that they are almost all small breeds, Pugs, Terriers, Springers.

Chestnut Sun 23-Jan-22 12:55:29

Blondiescot Of course a dog will reflect the owner, so kind loving owner = kind loving dog. We all get that. The problem is the nasty dogs are with nasty owners so how do you get them out of their hands and into the hands of a nice owner? In most cases you can't, the dog will stay with the nasty owner and may end up killing a child or another dog in the park.

Daisymae Sun 23-Jan-22 13:56:55

Phew! My dogs ok as she's only little ! No, I think that we should stop all leisure air travel. That should help the planet, packed honeypots, Venice from sinking etc.

Sarnia Mon 24-Jan-22 08:31:13

What on earth for? Where would this end? Other animals, people? Stupid idea.

Hetty58 Mon 24-Jan-22 08:49:30

We could ban meat altogether in commercial dog food. They'd be quite happy as vegetarians. Cats are true carnivores, though.

sodapop Mon 24-Jan-22 08:59:45

I think there should be much tighter controls on all dog breeding and sales. Unfortunately this would probably create a black market which would be worse. Sterilisation of pets should be encouraged, our vet has an amnesty every year where she offers this service at a much reduced rate.

Beswitched Mon 24-Jan-22 09:41:20

No, but I think there should be regulations around the breeds and numbers of dogs people should be allowed keep in built up areas and apartment blocks. Out of consideration for the dogs, and the unfortunate neighbours.

25Avalon Mon 24-Jan-22 10:18:15

I’d like cruelty sorted out. In China dogs are kept in cages, inhumanly killed, skinned and eaten. A neighbour has an Old English Shepdog rescued from there. Others have dogs rescued from the streets of Greece etc. In this country dogs (and other pets) are mistreated and in a terrible state. Perhaps rather than restrict the size of dog we should restrict who can have a dog?

Germanshepherdsmum Mon 24-Jan-22 10:27:45

I wonder if the old requirement for a dog licence had any effect on the numbers of dogs? There is terrible cruelty to dogs and other animals throughout the world and unlicensed puppy farms which keep breeding bitches in appalling conditions cater to the seemingly insatiable demand for cute puppies, many of which quickly grow into unwanted and untrained dogs.

Iam64 Mon 24-Jan-22 10:49:19

It would help if people were more responsible, researched before buying a fluffy puppy. You need to be prepared to train, immunise, exercise etc for 15 years
The number of posts on Facebook dog groups where owners describe their tiny pups as aggressive or stubborn is awful

sodapop Mon 24-Jan-22 12:36:03

Just going to say the same thing about the FB posts Iam64 people expecting puppies to be house trained within days, keeping them in crates for extended periods etc. No one seems to just enjoy their puppies. Two of our much loved dogs died within the last year aged 15 & 16. We would give anything to have them back as puppies.

Ali08 Mon 24-Jan-22 12:57:17

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Don't smaller dogs, and cats, consume the same products?
What about cows? Are they to be phased out because they fart? If so, then my life is in danger!!
Other animals that eat meat?

NO!! I think it's wrong. What would be the next thing after those dogs, because we know for sure it wouldn't stop there!!!

Iam64 Mon 24-Jan-22 14:05:13

Soda pop I empathise. Our big kind gentle clever labradoodle died 18 months ago leaving a huge hole in our lives.
I must be Ms mad dog woman because six months later I bought a lab puppy. Only my third pup in forty seven years of rescuing and fostering. He’s a giant hooligan teenager snd I’m relieved he isn’t my first ?

Josieann Mon 24-Jan-22 14:55:03

I am surprised that our puppy, 7 months, is now the size of a horse. He had a check up at the vet's the other day and she said he was at the bottom of his weight range though I can't see how with the amount he eats. He is very athletic and bouncy though.
My husband is 6 2" tall and strong, his excuse was he would look daft with a small dog on a pretty lead so big we got!

Iam64 Mon 24-Jan-22 18:53:43

Josieann- what breed?
My year old lab is huge. 35 kg and sleek n lean. Walking him since adolescence hut can be more challenging than walking a pony

Josieann Mon 24-Jan-22 19:55:05

Iam64 he is a golden retriever, of the working type. 22.5 kilos but long legs and fast. Here at 6 months.
Think gazelle!

Iam64 Mon 24-Jan-22 19:59:18

What a beauty. He and my lab would love racing on that beach

Josieann Mon 24-Jan-22 20:18:54

grin

Blondiescot Mon 24-Jan-22 20:24:47

I have a black Lab who is a year old in a couple of weeks, and he's around 32kg, but lean.

Iam64 Mon 24-Jan-22 20:29:14

My lab is show type so bigger than most working types but he’s lean. I don’t want my dogs overweight

Josieann Mon 24-Jan-22 20:58:47

Beautiful boy Blondiescot.
Yes, lean is key.