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MissAdventure Sat 05-Feb-22 10:32:15

I would really appreciate some advice, please.

If the hospital has said that I have missed an appointment, but i have had no letter, no text, and no phone call to inform me that i have finally got an appointment, is there anything i can do to ensure that i will still be seen without having to go to the bottom of list again?

I have contacted PALS, and explained that i have been waiting since last summer, and that i NEED to be seen, and apparently it was on that very same day that i was on the phone that I should have been at the hospital.
What a coincidence...

I have had no letter, or text, or phone call to inform me about the appointment, it only materialised out of thin air when I contacted PALS, after a rude booking clerk told me to wait my turn (in so many words)

She never said "Oh, actually you have an appointment for today", and I certainly wouldn't have just not gone.

So, in short, they are blaming me for their own mess up, and I am not having it!!!

MissAdventure Sat 05-Feb-22 12:32:12

JaneJudge

I hope it is sorted soon, it sounds really frustrating sad

It is..
I keep being asked if I want counselling.
No! I just want to see the ruddy consultant.

Peasblossom Sat 05-Feb-22 12:32:53

You Trust has a Board of Governors. I’ve just Googled Contact Governors for my Local and a form came up to email.

I think the time has come to tell them you are going through the official complaints procedure and you will arrive in person to collect the necessary documentation, the policy, the forms and, after due notice, the copies of your medical records.

Time to play hardball.

trisher Sat 05-Feb-22 12:33:54

MissAdventure sorry but I fear you won't get anywhere with this. It's a common occurrence for appointments to 'get lost' somewhere between the consultants office and the booking office. Each will blame the other in the first instance and both will blame you.
Tell them you will accept a cancellation then ring them every morning to ask for one. They will give you an appointment o keep you quiet.

trisher Sat 05-Feb-22 12:36:23

You are entitled to ask for a digital copy of your medical records. It will be sent on a disc which you will need security infomation to open.

MissAdventure Sat 05-Feb-22 12:38:49

I think you're right, Trisher.
I really am past caring or proving anything or blaming anyone.
I couldn't care less about that.
It is what it is, but an appointment would be lovely!

nandad Sat 05-Feb-22 14:36:35

Go back to PALS and ask them to escalate it both within PALS and to the governors. I’m sorry but our local PALS is a waste of space unless you threaten something. My son kept on getting appointments with a consultant who shared the same name as his orthopaedic surgeon. The incorrect consultant was an obstetrician! After this happened a couple of times he would ring up to make sure he was seeing the right consultant would be told yes, then his appointment would be cancelled because he wasn’t seeing the right person. We complained to PALS who contacted the orthopaedic surgeons secretary as well as giving us her number. Despite numerous messages being left she didn’t call us until we contacted PALS and told them we wanted to make an official complaint. We got a call back that afternoon from the surgeon who got the problem sorted.
Unfortunately sometimes you have to shout loudly to be heard above the others that are shouting.

nandad Sat 05-Feb-22 14:38:47

BTW trisher’s advice about calling daily and asking about cancellations is good. That’s exactly what I have done and will be seeing a specialist within 2 weeks of being referred.

Callistemon21 Sat 05-Feb-22 14:43:57

I was given the wrong appointment at orthopaedics; apparently I should have gone the week before, which was two days before I had rung for the appointment.
When I got there I was told by the receptionist that I had been taken off their list as a 'no show'.
So, unless I protested, I would have been left with a plaster on my leg for ever.

MissAdventure Sat 05-Feb-22 15:00:25

Thank you all.
At least I feel I'm on the right line to getting listened to.
Politely persistent.

silverlining48 Sat 05-Feb-22 15:03:58

I am sorry MissA. I feel your pain. flowers xx

MissAdventure Sat 05-Feb-22 15:30:29

smile
Thank you. X

Rosina Sat 05-Feb-22 16:10:26

So frustrating - I can understand how you feel. I had a very sarcastic lady on the phone one afternoon; she 'assumed I no longer wanted to see Mr. XX as I hadn't turned up'. Like you, I had no letter, phone call or any notification about the appointment but she clearly didn't believe me. I suspect she had the wrong address as she asked me to confirm it, and I got another appointment, by letter, for the next week. I wish I had been quick witted enough to ask for the address the hospital held for me.

GrannyGravy13 Sat 05-Feb-22 16:47:17

I hope you get this sorted MissAdventure , there has been lots of good advice on here.

Callistemon21 Sat 05-Feb-22 17:31:27

I dont think you're alone by any means, MissAdventure

When DH did get another appointment the Consultant said they'd been wondering why patients hadn't been turning up at clinics.

MerylStreep Sat 05-Feb-22 17:44:07

Consultants wondering why patients hadn’t been turning up at clinics Mmmm?
That’s one way of keeping people out of hospitals: just don’t contact them ?
Just saying.

trisher Sat 05-Feb-22 17:59:00

Good Luck MissAdventure if possible try to approach it with a sense of humour as well. When we had issues we found it the only way to cope with the buck passing, the lies, the declarations of ignorance and the whole heap of other things the different hospital departments came up with when challenged.

Callistemon21 Sat 05-Feb-22 18:06:23

MerylStreep

^Consultants wondering why patients hadn’t been turning up at clinics^ Mmmm?
That’s one way of keeping people out of hospitals: just don’t contact them ?
Just saying.

And what a waste of time and money!

The Appointments Department has sharpened up since, I think.
They tend to phone and invite you to make an appointment now.

Witzend Sat 05-Feb-22 18:13:26

Have you moved in the past few years?
Or even in the past not-a-few?

A BiL undergoing cancer treatment had an appointment letter sent to an address he’d moved from 17 years previously.

Other letters had gone to the right address, and it was only because the new owners bothered to forward the letter after so long, that he didn’t miss an appointment.

From experience, NHS admin can be chaotic. Dh was sent for a minor procedure to the wrong clinic, quite a way from where he should have been sent, so that was an appt. wasted.

They like to blame patients for not turning up, but I dare say their admin may be equally to blame. On a similar note, I’ve heard so many times of relatives telling hospital staff not to send appt, letters to people with dementia, but to a relative, because the person with dementia will never take note or remember, and will more than likely hide the letter or throw it away.
But they still send them, regardless.

Gwyneth Sat 05-Feb-22 18:25:18

I would definitely check that they have your correct details. I rang the hospital three times to get them to correct my GP surgery. Each time a letter was sent to another surgery and I wasn’t a patient there. They just couldn’t be bothered to amend my records. I really hope you manage to get an appointment soon Missadventure.

MissAdventure Sat 05-Feb-22 23:22:51

smile
Thanks all.

Grammaretto Sat 05-Feb-22 23:45:23

I have been reading this awful saga Missadventure
Trisher's advice was sound.

I think your GP ought to be on the case.

After waiting 8 months for a "ten minute" operation I wrote to the consultant and begged to get my op. I was living on painkillers. He wrote back explaining that he was a busy and very important surgeon and if my condition was life threatening he would see me sooner but as it wasn't, I would have to wait my turn.
The very next day the phone rang. It was his secretary offering me a cancellation!!
However, that was pre-covid times.
Good luck to you.

MissAdventure Sat 05-Feb-22 23:59:55

Ah, thank you. smile
I know that PALS were rather uncomfortable to realise the serious problems I am living with, all documented in various scan results (all done at the hospital)
I am hoping they will come up trumps for me.

Shinamae Sun 06-Feb-22 09:55:44

??????… really hope you get it sorted soon Miss A

grandtanteJE65 Sun 06-Feb-22 12:20:53

You could write to the hospital's administrator, or the senior consultant of the dept. that should have sent you the appointment, basically telling him the same as you have mentioned here, but adding dates, and your GP's name and address.

Do you know whether the hospital in question usually sends appointments by the post, by text message or by e-mail or phones them through?

There could have been a mistake in the address or telephone number they had been given, which is something that can be checked.

Not that that will help really, as they probably will maintain that you gave them the wrong information!

My rude consultant gave me a dreadful row for not taking the medicine she had prescribed and flatly refused to believe me when I said I had received neither prescription, letter, e- mail nor phone call from her.

Is there a Patients' Association, or does the UK not have them? If there is one, they may be if not able to help, but they will be able to register your complaint and if they receive others of the same kind regarding the same hospital do something to prevent future mistakes of this kind.

Sallywally1 Sun 06-Feb-22 12:21:33

All GP referrals are made by what is known as ERS, electronic referral system. Paperwork can be generated via this system and you should ask for a copy. This will have a number for you to ring, a password and what is known as a UBRN number which is unique to you. Some GPs print the paperwork, some don’t, but this might be helpful in the first instance.